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Unread 10-03-2011, 02:19 PM   #1
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Replacing Tub. Need title or VIN?

I plan on replacing my tub with another CJ or YJ.

My current tub has the vin plate up near the windshield but was badly rusted and came off so i rivited it back on.

If i replace the tub, do i HAVE to use the new vin plate?
do i HAVE to report/register a mismatched vin on a vehicle?

granted, i know different parts are replaced on vehicles from donors a million times a day. motor swaps are done all the time too.

so what vin location does the state or my insurance really care about?

if i was in a wreck with only body damage (after the swap) would insurance deny the claim? and would there be issues from said wreck with the state?

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Unread 10-03-2011, 02:27 PM   #2
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no you dont, just pull the vin off your old tub (firewall and windshield) and put em on your new tub.
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Laws vary from state to state, but generally the frame is considered the base unit of the vehicle. The title (and VIN) stays with the frame, even if the body is replaced. Jeeps are a bit fuzzy because you can buy an aftermarket frame and body. But read Kentucky DMV's rules for clarification.
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Unread 10-03-2011, 04:58 PM   #4
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Laws vary from state to state, but generally the frame is considered the base unit of the vehicle. The title (and VIN) stays with the frame, even if the body is replaced. Jeeps are a bit fuzzy because you can buy an aftermarket frame and body. But read Kentucky DMV's rules for clarification.
Path is correct.... states vary. Check with your specific state.

In Arizona, title and vin go with tub.
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but the problem is the rivets on the tag, if they are not original, the dmv can denied your claim
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Unread 10-03-2011, 05:48 PM   #6
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What you can do is cut the metal around the VIN tag, about two inches, clean it up real good, mark the location on your new tub, cut that metal and weld in the VIN tag metal, then grind the weld smooth on both sides. You won't have to worry about the rivets being screwed up.
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The only time anybody checks VIN plates is if there is a problem or a cop is suspicious. My dash VIN is gone and nobody has ever looked at the VIN on the tub in the 12+ years I have owned my CJ-7. I don't even have the Bill of Sale anymore to prove I bought it.


As mentioned, just comply with the VIN laws of your state.
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just checked with Ky DMV...what a mess.

first i have to submit a notorized written letter requesting Permission to do a VIN swap.
once approved, i have to submit a copy of both titles with vin numbers.
then i have to request a salvaged title for my CJ with new body/VIN.

ummmm...nope!
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just checked with Ky DMV...what a mess.

first i have to submit a notorized written letter requesting Permission to do a VIN swap.
once approved, i have to submit a copy of both titles with vin numbers.
then i have to request a salvaged title for my CJ with new body/VIN.

ummmm...nope!
Well, now that you know the legal requirements, so you can consider some of the alternative suggestions above. I would never advise someone to break the law, especially on a public forum, but I know exactly what I would do in this situation.
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VIN? What VIN? Just write one in there with a crayon...
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Unread 10-04-2011, 12:33 PM   #11
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Well, now that you know the legal requirements, so you can consider some of the alternative suggestions above. I would never advise someone to break the law, especially on a public forum, but I know exactly what I would do in this situation.

yeah, i think we're on the same page here!
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