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Unread 03-11-2010, 05:29 PM   #16
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Who exactly is "everyone" who says a CJ5 is not worth restoring? I want to find this "everyone" and punch them in the nose.

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Unread 03-11-2010, 08:50 PM   #17
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You already own the Cj so why spend more money? How do I afford it, I don't but i dont afford booze and cigarettes either but Im never out of them. You always find money for an addiction
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Unread 03-11-2010, 09:40 PM   #18
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Hang on to the CJ even if you don't have money for it right now. When I was a young man I sold a 1975 K5 Blazer that I loved so I could get married. I was 22 years old then, and I sold it for less than $1,800. I did'nt have any money to work on the Blazer and I did'nt have any money shortly after I sold it. Fast forward 21 years and I have a little change in my pocket but no Blazer in the garage, and if you think CJ's are gettin hard to come by try finding a 74 or 75 Blazer, lol. Anyway, most of the guy's with the cool build threads are older than 19 so they have some free cash to spend, hang on to that CJ and some day in the not so distant future you will too. But in the mean time enjoy driving it and fixing up what you can, hang out with your buds that like to turn wrenches with you. CJ's are journey not a destination. Have fun. Brian.
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Unread 03-11-2010, 10:17 PM   #19
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Back in 1985, I sold a 1969 Mustang Mach 1.
I will never sell my CJ7.
I don't get how CJ's aren't worth putting money into. Seriously, new base-level Wranglers are $22,000. Rubicons are $29,000. Putting that monthly payment into a CJ would be a much better bang for the buck.
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Unread 03-11-2010, 10:18 PM   #20
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Who exactly is "everyone" who says a CJ5 is not worth restoring? I want to find this "everyone" and punch them in the nose.
I want to buy the "worthless" CJs from the friends they're advising.
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Unread 03-11-2010, 10:26 PM   #21
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I'll let my post from another forum (the small print - Index) let people in on how many cars I've tried before finally getting my CJ7.
Some of these are after I got married, so I co-owned those vehicles.


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VW- Beetle, 1979 Rabbit, 1981 Rabbit, 1979 Scirocco, 1983 Scirocco, 1986 Jetta, 1985 Golf GTI, 1979 Cabriolet, 1982 Cabriolet, 1983 GTI, 1984 GTI
Chevy- 1978 Monza, Monte Carlo, El Camino, 1965 Corvair, 1985 Nova, 1985 Chevette, 1978 Chevette, 1973 Camaro, 1989 Cavalier
GMC- Suburban
Isuzu- P'up longbed, P'up 4x4
Geo- Storm GSI, Prism LSI, Metro
Toyota- 1986 Celica GT, 1985 Supra, 1979 Celica GT, 1981 Celica ST
Plymouth- 1991 Laser
Pontiac- 1969 Tempest, 1993 Grand Prix, two Sunbirds
Ford- 1969 Mustang, Escort Wagon
Mercury- 1979 Capri.
MG- MGB-GT
Jeep- 1973 Cherokee, 1985 CJ7
AMC- 1982 Concord, 1973 Hornet
Subaru- 1999 Outback
Buick- LeSabre
Oldsmobile- 1993 Cutlass Supreme, 1985 Cutlass, Delta 98, 1989 Cutlass Calais
Datsun- 310GX, B210
Nissan- Pathfinder
Triumph- TR7
Honda- Accord
Audi- Coupe GT
Dodge- Ram 50


That's 22 makes. 55 vehicles. 13 Corporations. And I'm 41 years old. 25 years of driving time. That doesn't count cars I've worked on. One wife. Who's really got AADD?
Currently, I have the 1985 CJ, and two Outbacks. I've finally sent my AADD (automotive attention deficit disorder) into remission. The CJ is the first vehicle that's lasted more than a year, currently at 4 years of happy ownership. Yeah, it's worth it.
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Unread 03-11-2010, 11:33 PM   #22
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I'll let my post from another forum (the small print - Index) let people in on how many cars I've tried before finally getting my CJ7.
Some of these are after I got married, so I co-owned those vehicles.




Currently, I have the 1985 CJ, and two Outbacks. I've finally sent my AADD (automotive attention deficit disorder) into remission. The CJ is the first vehicle that's lasted more than a year, currently at 4 years of happy ownership. Yeah, it's worth it.
So true, keep the CJ Actually buy another one
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Unread 03-13-2010, 07:54 AM   #23
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I have a friend who bought an 07' rubi for $34K, i think. I bought my 5 for $500 and am thinking i'll probably spend about $10-15K to build it to where I want it. Lets do the math $500+$15000=$15500. Did i mention the 5 will be more robust than the 07 rubi? so........is it worth it? HELL YEAH!
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Unread 03-13-2010, 08:33 AM   #24
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Had my 73 since 76. It'll outlast me. The kids can fight over it when I'm gone. . . .lol
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Unread 03-13-2010, 08:59 AM   #25
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Not all CJs are "worth" restoring or building in my opinion, it depends on the condition.
I have given away Jeeps that I have used to death, they are typically rusted to the point where they need a new body but restorable/buildable if someone has the time and wants to put out the money (I keep the power trains including the axles). They are just not worth the time and expense to me.

If you are contemplating a CJ for off road use you need one with a solid frame and, a good title and not much else; but (big but) you need to be a talented assembler/fabricator with tools a moderate amount (or more) of money and good scrounging skills.
If you don't already have a high level of mechanical aptitude and a moderately complete set of tools & parts you will be looking at a lot of headaches and expense doing a restore or build.
Restoration is making it factory original, a build is making one that works well off road (mall crawlers are ignored).
The first thing to do is to make up your mind; what will be the purpose? Stock CJs can normally accomplish moderate trails if driven well (another increasingly uncommon skill) but not all are good off roaders and few take common modifications (larger tires) without some aspect of degraded performance.
If the primary purpose of the vehicle is for use on trails; there are better bases to start with than a CJ/YJ (again you need money). There is literally no comparison in the off road abilities of similarly equipped stock CJs/YJs and the TJs/newer Jeeps, period. The old iron has been left behind by the newer suspension technologies.
It should be noted by the younger folks CJs did not come with fuel injection and carburettors do not work well for many/most people off road (and more than a few on road). Carburettor tuning and modification takes some dedication and a bit of study to learn. I have been called a talented carburettor guy (grew up with them) and I will only have a carburetted vehicle until it can be injected. Again; the technology has left the old iron behind (coughing in the dust).
If you are looking to build a relatively extreme off roader just pick a vehicle with a frame. Pretty much any vehicle will do (if they have the ability to accommodate extreme approach and departure angles), because you will probably throw away, the axles and likely most of the rest of the drive train.
A note of caution; I made exactly one good looking Jeep. It got ripped; so I keep my jeeps looking a bit on the scroungy side. Security becomes a lager concern with a good looking vehicle.

Is it worth it? Yes, for some people no for others.

Enjoy!
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Unread 03-13-2010, 09:18 AM   #26
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I bought a YJ in '01 or '02, had it for a couple years, sold it after the standard lift, tires, then a SBC 350/TH350 swap. I missed that jeep like crazy...mostly all the work I put into it. In '04 I bought my current '84 CJ7...and as long as life lets me, I will NEVER let it get away. It's spent the entire last year and a half sitting on a trailer not doing hardly a damn thing...but I still wrench on it once in a while. Once time and money allows, I'll start racing again (mine is just a mud racer now). Like someone else said, it also didn't get to the state that it's in overnight. Took a lot of time and patience. Keep at it, bro. Don't sell it and buy a newer one. Don't mean to beat a dead horse here, but the older CJs have a character like no other. I keep looking for another one that I can build into a street/trail rig, but I don't have the time/money/space (mainly the last one) for it right now. Once again, don't give it up.
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