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Unread 02-15-2012, 08:11 PM   #1
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Ratchet's CJ3Bs Builds

I'm going to stop lurking and start posting. I've had the bug for a flattie here for a little while. I started looking around for one to build up as a DD since I don't live too far from work. I found a CL ad a few weeks ago for 2 CJ3B's. We called on them, they were still available, so my father and I drove out and picked them up as well as a slew of other parts for them.


So I was looking for one, but ended up with two. GREAT! One for me and one for Dad. The red one on the rear of the trailer is a 53 and the maroon one on the front is a 58.... Or what is left of a 58 3B.

We unloaded the trailer the next day and got to work. We pulled the 53 into the garage, since that was the most complete. We got it running with some new plug wires, a worn out distributor off the shelf, and swapping out a good carb we had available. We drove it up to the barn (with no brakes) to be parked for now. I'll try to get some pictures of that one later.

We then drug the maroon 58 into the garage to assess it.

First appearances weren't bad.


The Mac cracked me up....


As well as the manual wiper..... Use what works!


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Unread 02-15-2012, 08:28 PM   #2
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There aren't many before pics because we tore right into it. We decided to keep the more complete one for Dad to do later and to build this one for me.

Front clip off...

Unfortunately the firewall had quite a bit cut out to fit the tiny GM 4cyl which was paired to an automatic transmission which ran a narrow Ford 9 out back.


Everything stripped out of the interior. There wasn't much here.


The dog took off with the steering wheel....


I was underneath working on taking the body off when I found this:

I wonder how many miles this old Craftsman wrench has seen?

We took the body off and leaned up up behind....

Now we can really see what is going on.

Narrow Ford 9


Automatic transmission of some sort.


As we looked over it, we realized that this frame wasn't in the best shape....

There were several areas that had been repaired like this......

So, we decided to make another trip the weekend after the first trip and pick up another CJ3B and CJ5 chassis as well as more parts from where we purchased the first two 3B's.

(No the strap across the body is not holding the Jeep down, just securing a few tires and the boom pole in the Jeep)
The blue 3B, a 61, came with a title. The frame was also in much better shape, but most of the body is literally gone. The 61 will be the 3B I'm going to build using the tub from the donor 58 and the firewall from what is left of the 61's body.The CJ5 was a complete rolling chassis, which may come in handy for drive-train parts.

The 61 was stripped in a few hours once we got home. The frame was in much better shape, so we continued stripping the frame down.

We literally cut about 6" of material and lifted the body off.... It was that bad.

Once we had the Jeep completely disassembled, we dropped the frame off at the sandblasters late last week and got to work on the smaller parts with our blaster.
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Unread 02-15-2012, 08:34 PM   #3
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Sweet!!! Love 3B's!!! CAnt wait to see where this goes.
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Unread 02-15-2012, 08:40 PM   #4
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We got the frame back from the blasters today. $50 sure beats sitting for a few hours and blasting it myself. We got busy and made sure the frame had a good coat of sealer this evening.


Here is how a lot of the rest of the Jeep sits.... The axles are disassembled and the axle housings have been blasted and primed, as well as a lot of other small parts.


So, here coming up soon is all the fun stuff.... Assembling the rolling chassis, getting the drive-train up to par, then body work.

Now that the past few weeks are caught up, I can get to my vision for it. I'm building this as a DD and mild wheeler. I plan on keeping the stock 134F head, T-90, and D18 transfer case. I do plan on running disc brakes up front as well as a dual reservoir master cylinder, so look forward to those coming up here real soon.
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Unread 02-15-2012, 09:03 PM   #5
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Looks like fun, gotta love the old flatties
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Unread 02-16-2012, 07:21 AM   #6
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Sweet!!! Love 3B's!!! CAnt wait to see where this goes.
I love them too. I had about given up on finding one and was searching for a 3A when i stumbled across this lot. Oh, and I can't wait to see where it takes me too. I'm real excited about this build.

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Looks like fun, gotta love the old flatties
Thanks, I'm having a blast.


I hope to have some pictures of a few more parts in semi-gloss black to show off this evening. We'll see how things go after work though.
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Unread 02-16-2012, 07:05 PM   #7
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We got the first coat of black on the frame as well as a few parts.

It felt good to put parts ON rather than to take them off.



The bumper looks nice and straight.


I believe I may pick up a little more flattener. It still looks a little glossy.

I also tore into the rear D44.

It looked pretty good. I am going to need a few bearings, but I was pleased with its overall condition.

Humm... 12 29 60 That sounds about right for a 1961.
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Unread 02-17-2012, 08:25 PM   #8
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Rebuilt my T90 this evening.




Second gear had a bit of pitting on it, but the bearings and everything else was in good shape.
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Unread 02-17-2012, 09:11 PM   #9
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Nice thread! I sort of ended up with the 3B I have by default. I needed a Jeep, any running Jeep, after doing a flip in my CJ5. Found the 3B at a local machine shop that was using it to plow snow off their lot. $500 and 26k miles. I ran it completely stock for about a year and a half and then started swaping parts which I still find myself doing 40 years later.

Just don't try to get any pics posted in JP

I am sure you know of Derek's 3B page, huge resource, especially if you are keeping it more or less stock.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Index.html
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Unread 02-21-2012, 12:31 PM   #10
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I accomplished a bit on the 1961 3B without appearing to have accomplished anything at all. The transfer case is back together and mated with the transmission. I also started prepping the rebuilt engine for paint.

I might have to slow down on my DD 3B project until I can sell a few Jeep parts and spare Jeeps to fund it. Especially now that the YJ might need a radiator.

On the 1953, we were working to get it running a bit better and drivable. I drove it down from the barn with no brakes and managed to pull it into the shop with very little drama. From there we scrounged up enough parts to make a decent distributor. After a quick radiator swap and timing adjustment, it ran better than we were expecting. After bleeding the brakes, we were good to go. Pics to come of the 53 out and about moving around on its own power!
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Unread 02-21-2012, 02:06 PM   #11
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Nice thread! I sort of ended up with the 3B I have by default. I needed a Jeep, any running Jeep, after doing a flip in my CJ5. Found the 3B at a local machine shop that was using it to plow snow off their lot. $500 and 26k miles. I ran it completely stock for about a year and a half and then started swaping parts which I still find myself doing 40 years later.

Just don't try to get any pics posted in JP
Thanks! Actually, getting a little nostalgic about the CJ5 I drove through high school is how I ended up on a CJ buying spree. I started looking for 5's, but decided to goa different direction and switched to CJ3A's and 3B's. Now, getting nostalgic about my Wrangler and not selling it is why I'm going to have to slow down on this one.


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I am sure you know of Derek's 3B page, huge resource, especially if you are keeping it more or less stock.
http://www.film.queensu.ca/CJ3B/Index.html
Oh yes, Derek's page might as well be one of my home pages. I browse it more or less for all the pictures posted. I do my fare share of lurking around restoration and tech threads.
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Unread 02-22-2012, 10:10 AM   #12
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Pictures of the 1953 CJ3B as promised:

We couldn't resist taking the 1953 CJ3B out yesterday.





The milk crate works pretty well unless you need to push the clutch or brake down.... Then you need to hold onto the windshield frame to keep it from tipping back.

Cleaning a fuel tank and installing the set of seats we have is on the short list. We'll probably tackle the wiring here sometime soon as well as exhaust. The rusty muffler kind of fell off.

This one is staying unrestored for a little while, so we're just going to get it in good operable condition to buzz around in.
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Unread 02-23-2012, 06:46 PM   #13
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Wow thats a lot of flatty buying for a week or two haha. Looking good so far, are you planning on a restro or modding it a bit? Seems like you work very fast!

Just wondering, howcome your running the 19 spline rear D44 instead of that narrow Ford nine? The 9 inch is a pretty beafy axle compared to that 19 spline 44.
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Unread 02-23-2012, 07:06 PM   #14
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This is great! Glad I found your thread. I hope the Heeler doesn't bury anything!!! Keep the pics coming.
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Unread 02-23-2012, 07:28 PM   #15
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Awesome thread!!! I have two 3Bs of my own and am currently restoring a 53 model. Good luck with the build. here is a link to my build. Maybe there is some info that will help you. Here is where i am at currently... Rolling chassis

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http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/19.../#post12217917
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