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post #76 of 133 Old 09-18-2013, 08:30 PM
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From the website where I bought the valve body. It would be the same with stock parts.
Site> http://news.compperformance.com/Instructions/221200.pdf

The friend who helped me said the same thing.

I'm thinking to start mine before I put the drive shafts in.

So bad news on the chain, o well. All three of my cases have 7/16" slop .


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post #77 of 133 Old 09-18-2013, 08:36 PM
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From here. http://www.engineershandbook.com/Tables/torque.htm

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post #78 of 133 Old 09-18-2013, 08:50 PM
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I keep thinking of things. Find a way to set the tranny on its tail for reassembly. This is by far the easiest way to put stuff back in. Especially the clutch disc and steel rings. And getting them lined up with the teeth on the drum. You'll see what I mean when you get to that point.

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post #79 of 133 Old 09-19-2013, 05:39 AM
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I keep thinking of things. Find a way to set the tranny on its tail for reassembly.....
Stick it nose down in a stack of tires.....
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post #80 of 133 Old 09-19-2013, 06:06 AM Thread Starter
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Ill figure out a way. I may build a small wooden table with a hole for the tailshaft, and let the weight hang from the engine hoist to the bell housing.

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post #81 of 133 Old 09-19-2013, 05:37 PM Thread Starter
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Got most of the tearing apart done today. Everything went easy, no special tools or skills needed. I went off of this video.

















Any opinions on how things look?? I'm hoping to just put in new gaskets and seal if I can get away with it. I don't know how things are supposed to look though.
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post #82 of 133 Old 09-19-2013, 05:48 PM Thread Starter
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Only a couple WTF moments.

An 8p nail???LOL I'm guessing this should be a small roll pin?



This part, I forget what it's called, came out in this order. The C clip was just laying in there along side the shaft. The C clip seems like it needs the tension of the spring to hold in onto the shaft. With no tension, the clip just falls off.
Any idea which side of the cup shaped piece the clip goes on?
And is this the proper order?
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post #83 of 133 Old 09-19-2013, 06:14 PM Thread Starter
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How can I clean up the empty housing? can I pressure wash it and spray it out with brake parts cleaner? Brake parts cleaner only??
I'd like to clean it up and throw on a coat of paint while it's out.
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On my phone the 3rd gear band looks pitted . Is this correct? If its pitted bad, this would cause the 2/3 shift to be a little slow. Because, the fluid needs squeezed out when the band tightens .

Reverse band appears ok in the picture.

All the other clutch disc I can't tell. Any pitting will make a difference. All of mine had cross grouves in the friction material to help get the fluid out. The steel rings were scuffed up as well, I believe for more friction surface and grip (made rougher).

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How can I clean up the empty housing? can I pressure wash it and spray it out with brake parts cleaner? Brake parts cleaner only??
I'd like to clean it up and throw on a coat of paint while it's out.
Yes you can, tranny shops use what amounts to a big dishwasher/steam-cleaner to clean all the parts, except friction material.

I'd use brake clean on the bearings.

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Only a couple WTF moments.

An 8p nail???LOL I'm guessing this should be a small roll pin?


This part, I forget what it's called, came out in this order. The C clip was just laying in there along side the shaft. The C clip seems like it needs the tension of the spring to hold in onto the shaft. With no tension, the clip just falls off.
Any idea which side of the cup shaped piece the clip goes on?
And is this the proper order?
I'll check mine for this in the morning ( the nail)

I saw this in the video, don't remember on the clip. You might go back and watch the video and take notes ( what I would do) ( would have to do) :-)

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I'll send a text in the am with this picture to my friend.

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To see what he thinks.

I would think Seriously about replacing the steel rings and friction disc. Or at least check on the price.

I look at it as kind of a now or later thing, the tranny is already apart.

I'm not a fan of doing over, to something I've already fixed/changed. Especially when it involves this much to get to.

My junk update. Case is swapped on the transfer case. Hope to reinstall most things tomorrow.

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Yeah, that is some pitting on the band. It's not alot (not that I would know what alot is), but there is small pits.

I'm still hoping to re-use everything. I' am pinching every penny right now on this swap, and If I have to have it rebuilt the trans in another few years, then so be it.
For a rebuild kit, and a TC at Advance Auto with my discount, it would come to about $200.
I'm just looking to avoid anything that will give up on it in the next year or so.
I can sock some pennies away, and do a full rebuilt as a winter project if it starts going bad.

I also plan on stopping and picking up a good manual for it. I hear they have some good information in them.

The adapter is scheduled for delivery on tuesday, and I still need to get at least a gasket kit, or rebuilt kit (and TC if I rebuild) for the trans.
And two driveshafts. Wonder if I'll still need the same skinny front one for clearance reasons???
And get the floor ready to cut a hole.
The rest will be engineered on the fly.lol

What did I get myself in to.........
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post #89 of 133 Old 09-19-2013, 07:22 PM
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I wonder about the front shaft as well. After looking at Novaks site.

I'm not certain on this, but I would think a complete rebuild would be seals , steel plates and friction disc. I can't think of anything else to replace, providing all the bearings are good ( I'm assuming they will be.) Wouldn't it be worth $200 and not pull the tranny again. That's my thought anyway.

Just my thoughts, Bill

I'm do know its easier to pull the tranny with a I6 vs a V8.

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The nail is a STOCK GM part.. just reinstall
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