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Unread 03-30-2010, 08:47 PM   #1
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I’ve had this in the works just as soon as I decided the 258 / 4.0 head / HEI /Borla header / Crane cam motor was just not enough. Finally sold off the last of the great blue 4.2.

So my goodest friend let me work off some debt for his spare 0010 4 bolt main 350. History on the block was from a 69 Vette. Good news there, but somewhere along the lines it lost the Vette body and the heads as well.

This isn’t going to be your typical pull a motor from the junk yard and bolt it in to the Jeep thread. I’ve got my T18a all set up for the swap as well as the D300 built up as well.

So I strip the block down after it’s sat in my shop all winter, and take it up to the machine shop for the once over. Turns out it’s been .030’d already and run hard as hell since then. Foreman asks if I want to find another block or go .060. ….. .060 it is. Sentimental value here, this block was basically a gift and I’m going to make it work. So we square it, check the deck, and measure up the rest. Turns out the crank is way out of spec as well. So I order up a new crank, main and rod bearings, new set of .060 pistons, and a host of other goodies while I’m at it.

Summit has everything to my door in three days so I’m back up to the shop with my pistons so Foreman can bore it and hone it.
Two days later and I’m picking up my block and my pistons are pressed in to the rods.

Back at Casa de Fatman, I get out the aircraft paint remover and kill this thing with a good layer of paint be GONE ! Brake cleaner, compressor running full time and my new lil brushes, I have this tang el spotless and ready to play. Five coats of Cheby orange and it’s look’n good. An hour of thread chase'n and we are ready to build !

New RMS upper installed and sealed in place, lubed up w waterproof. One new crank washed down and installed w new set of std bearings. Plastigage reads .002 across the caps, so feeling good. Pop the caps off, a good dose of oil to lube things up, bottom half of RMS sealed up and torque these caps down.

Ring the pistons, then clean em up again, set the upper bearings on the rods, a good coat of oil on the skirts after a 60 second dip in the oil bath, and we are thumping pistons into the holes. Plastigage again and pleased with eight readings of .0015 to .002. Clean up the journals and oil em up. Five cycles of the crank and everything feels A+. Torque to rotate is a consistent 32 #’s.

Wash down of the cam, bit o assy lube on the lobes and oil up the bearings and we have our new cam slid in place without a bump. Lil bit mo assy lube on the lifter flats and a dip in the oil bath and 16 tappets are ready.

Tomorrow I’ll set the heads, push rods, rockers, water pump, 710 pump, intake, oil adapter, and anything else I can get to. Sure, it won’t take long to work up to whatever it is I forgot to order.

Pics, ... you knew they were coming
On the way to the shop


Back at my shop and cleaned up:


Fresh paint:


Santa comes early (or late ?):


Like a candy store:


Compressed:


Half:


Udder half:


Cam in place:


Dropping tappets:


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Unread 03-30-2010, 08:54 PM   #2
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Unread 03-30-2010, 09:01 PM   #3
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I just found your thread. Looks like a nice job you've done. And what a plus to be able to do it with the boys !
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Unread 03-30-2010, 11:59 PM   #4
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looking forward to your progress...
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Unread 03-31-2010, 01:28 AM   #5
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I just pulled up a chair myself...this is what I want to do also, however, for now it pains me, but I dont have the time or money to go your route. I know my 350 runs, so just the basic intake, carb and dress up for now. Carry on Fatman, the drool is starting....

I now live vicariously thru you.....it's cheaper that way
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Unread 03-31-2010, 05:52 AM   #6
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Nice choice on heads! I love building new engines...that's half the fun of the whole deal!

What do the cam specs look like? I KNOW you dint stick no stock bumpstick in 'ere...
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Unread 03-31-2010, 11:34 AM   #7
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Always the consummate craftsman, Fatman! Can't wait to follow this one! Whoohooo!

Is that Chevy orange a metallic? The second to last pic makes it look deep and glossy. Me likey!
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Unread 03-31-2010, 11:42 AM   #8
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Did you stroke it too???
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Unread 03-31-2010, 12:25 PM   #9
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Good, I got in on the first page!

Looking great
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Unread 03-31-2010, 12:28 PM   #10
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Did you stroke it too???
I stroked it...

Build this thing bro...
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Unread 03-31-2010, 12:51 PM   #11
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Nice choice on heads!
What do the cam specs look like? I KNOW you dint stick no stock bumpstick in 'ere...
Thanks, I have always wanted a set of these angle plugs.
Some specs below.

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Always the consummate craftsman, Fatman! Can't wait to follow this one! Whoohooo!
Is that Chevy orange a metallic? The second to last pic makes it look deep and glossy. Me likey!
Tanks Rex, just regular Plasti Cote High temp, hope it holds up.

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Did you stroke it too???
Nope, When I had the decision to get the new crank, I thought about it, but it was a passing thought.

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Good, I got in on the first page!
Looking great
Welcome Dave, I like watching your build as well.
At least I can keep an eye on my old harmonic.

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I stroked it...
Build this thing bro...
hookedupinc, you better go wash those [Richard Beaters], no one is going to shake your hand.

Specs on the build are as follows, Included Summit's #'s for the hell of it.:

Comp Cams Xtreme Energy Cam Kit
Gross lift .462 In .480 Ex
Duration 262 In 270 Ex
Lobe Separation 111.0 Going to set it at Zero advance.
CCA-CL12-239-3

Steel Internally Balanced Crank
Stock SBC Specs 3.480 Stroke
SES-3-48-05-000

Speed Pro TRW Pistons Hypereutectic Flats 4.060in
TRW-8KH631CP60

Proform Gear Drive
PRO-66917C

All bearings are Federal Mogul A-series Bi-metal
FEM-2555CP ROD BEARING
FEM-4663MA MAIN BEARING SET
FEM-2100M CAM BEARING
FPP-2912 REAR MAIN SEAL

Edelbrock Angle Plug Heads 64cc chambers, 185cc intake runners
EDL-60999

Edelbrock 7501 Performer RPM Air-Gap Intake Manifold
EDL-7501

Summit OEM Harmonic 8”
SUM-161358

Short Water Pump High Volume
SUM-311005

Summit 1.5 Ratio Roller Rockers
SUM-G6910B

Holley 670 Avenger Carb Single Feed
HLY-0-90670

MSD HEI Distributer
MSD-8474

MSD Ignition 6200 - MSD 6A CD Ignition
MDD-6200

Hedman Headers Elite Shorty’s
Steel Thermal Coated
HED-69648

K&N X-Stream Air Flow 14” Wide 4”Tall
Part Number: KNN-66-3020

Everything else is pretty much cosmetic
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Unread 03-31-2010, 01:09 PM   #13
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what kind of cost are you looking at overall just on the motor and accessories for this build? I'm looking to throw something similar into the Scout 800 I'm going to build
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Unread 03-31-2010, 01:19 PM   #14
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what kind of cost are you looking at overall just on the motor and accessories for this build? I'm looking to throw something similar into the Scout 800 I'm going to build
SBC in a 'Scout'? Shame on you.
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Unread 03-31-2010, 01:37 PM   #15
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SBC in a 'Scout'? Shame on you.
well if you or anyone in the houston area has an IH 304 or 345 they arent using I'd gladly take it off their hands and keep it all IH...but I havent seen much available lately...and to say SBC is plentiful is an understatement.

I'm 90% sure the 304 currently in there is toast...
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Phase Two: Bedliner, Rollcage, Seats, BESRK Rear Bumper w/ tire swing, Soft Top, and a few other goodies - Mostly Complete
Phase Three: Waggy 44 front, Scout D44 Rear, 4.56's, ARB's (F/R) SOA with YJ Springs, 35x12.50x15 BFG MT - Not Even Close to beginning

Also a mostly rust-free 1970 Scout 800A That I'll get to start working on someday...

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