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Old 12-19-2007, 10:53 PM   #1
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Project LizzardQueen..cj7 low buck build

I figured I start my build thread as it seems like theres alot of them starting..Its not going to be a high dollar build..Hell anyone can call a vender and have stuff shipped to make life easier..Not my style..With 3 cj's to support I need all the money I can get..Hot dogs for dinner sucks after a while..

Basicly I wanna show that you can build a capable rock cj in your back yard with little money spent..I'm shooting for a under 2000 dollar budget..I think Im gonna come in way under it,but tires and rims will cost me the most I think..

The LizzardQueen..You say why on earth would you call it that..It is what I call my wife..It started on the trails in the summer..Every ride we went on she had caught a lizzard,Letting them crawl all over the inside of the jeep..I know kinda lame but I dig it..


I got this cj for a trade..An 83..3.54 narrow track axles..arggg..thats gonna change..A np435..the lowest geared tranny offered by a car manufaturer..The compound first gear is 6.68..and the reverse is up in the 8's..The frame is as solid as it can be..Very impressive for a rust belt cj..

The projected plans..
full width chevy axles
soa on badly sagged 4'' springs..My reason is that they should flex like crazy with alot of droop.
!/4 eliptical rear shackles..Just to let it droop some more
rear disk conversion
adding to factory 93 and newer style family roll rar..
I already got axles comming to me this saturday..There out of a 72 chevy 3/4 ton..The rear is an Eaton rear..This thing is huge!! 4.10's already loaded.Some people say its what the gm 14 bolt was designed after..A full floating,3rd member drop out is about the cream of the crop..The down side,,there old and parts are kinda hard to find,but axles and diffs are swappable with a gm 14ff.


The front is a dana 44..I opted for the older model cuz they had come with a passenger side flat top knuckle from the factory..One less thing I would have to source if I went newer..I am also going to be pulling other parts and scrapping it when done with it to recoup some moneys..


Im going to out boarding the front spring hangers my self,styled after Poison spiders full width kit..At least the front rear out boards any way..I like the fact that there adjustable for leaf changes..Thats about it right now..This weekend I will have a few more pics up and a couple of fixes I need to make before it gets cold out..I need to fix the rear hatch hinge bolts..Two of them snapped off with the bolt inside the top so I gotta figure out how to get them out without destroying the fiberglass..



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My price tally..

electric fans and mounting hardware 25$
72 3/4 ton chevy''for d30 and eaton rear with 4.10's...300$
Flowmaster one chamber muffler..0$
35'' tires..0$
relays and wiring for fans 0$
variety pack of cut off,gringing and flap wheels 10.00$
One gallon jug of PB Blaster 20.00$
Diff cover for the rear Eaton 14.00$
4 small 90 degree fab magnents 4.00$
1 laquer marker 3.00$
3/16 X3''x6' steel,2 8''x6''1/4'' plates 4 cutoff wheels 17.00$
YJ spring bushings 17.00$
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...396$
Scrapped truck after rears where yanked... credit of 170$
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total as of January feb.11th $ 243
2' of 2.50'' for spring perches $ 8.50
10' of 1.50'' dom for anti wrap bar $ 16.00
1'' dom for wrap bar $ 4.50
2 grinding wheels $ 5.00
spool of welding wire $ 11.40
--total as of feb16th ---------------
$288.40

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Old 12-19-2007, 11:02 PM   #2
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I'm still new here so IDK if my opinion counts yet or not haha but has anyone ever though of making a build forum so we wouldn't have to dig through the threads for the sweet builds
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Old 12-19-2007, 11:06 PM   #3
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I think as long as its a vaild suggustion all are welcome..and yes it would be a great idea to have that..Maybe a mod can suggest that to the powers that be..
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BLS Home Chapter... Where it all Started
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My low Buck Rock Crawler project Project..Stop by and check it out..[URL="http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=497896"][B][COLOR="DarkOrange"]The lizzard Queen[/COLOR][/B][/URL]
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Old 12-19-2007, 11:23 PM   #4
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I really dig those original looking rims. Plain, but very utilitarian.
Good luck with the build.
Where are those little dunes at? Is that your local testing grounds?
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Old 12-19-2007, 11:41 PM   #5
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That is actually a motor cross track I built in the woods across the street from my house..Once a year I run a bob cat over there to fix it up and change it around..Mainly for my nepfew..He's an up and comming racer on the way to the pro's..I havent ridden in a year since breaking a few ribs and a bone in my wrist during a district race..
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1984 cj8 350 on 35's..the wifes
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"offroad it, and wave then you might understand"[/QUOTE]
BLS Home Chapter... Where it all Started
:hahaha: yj

My low Buck Rock Crawler project Project..Stop by and check it out..[URL="http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=497896"][B][COLOR="DarkOrange"]The lizzard Queen[/COLOR][/B][/URL]
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Old 12-20-2007, 03:20 PM   #6
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This is awesome...*subscribed*

And we shold have a build forum. - Maybe one for each of the current "model" forums...like a CJ Build Forum, YJ Build Forum, etc.

The threads come up so frequently, it would be very useful.





Anyway, good work! I can't wait to see updates!
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Old 12-20-2007, 04:49 PM   #7
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Keep us posted and be sure to let us know your cost break-down when finished. Goodluck.
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Old 12-20-2007, 06:34 PM   #8
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I like your buildup thread but i have some reservations about your strict 2000 buck limit....I hope you can do it but it seems few can.

Another observation is if your ride is an 83, why is it running narrow track axles? I thought they switched over in 82 to solely wide tracks? Did the PO install narrow tracks aftermarket?
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Old 12-20-2007, 09:59 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kconnor123
I like your buildup thread but i have some reservations about your strict 2000 buck limit....I hope you can do it but it seems few can.

Another observation is if your ride is an 83, why is it running narrow track axles? I thought they switched over in 82 to solely wide tracks? Did the PO install narrow tracks aftermarket?
Yes some one swapped them over to NT's..I think that the original rears where geared and locked ''by the way it was built''..and when it was sold at one point the swapped crappy axles in it..
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1984 cj8 350 on 35's..the wifes
[QUOTE=Me]
"offroad it, and wave then you might understand"[/QUOTE]
BLS Home Chapter... Where it all Started
:hahaha: yj

My low Buck Rock Crawler project Project..Stop by and check it out..[URL="http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=497896"][B][COLOR="DarkOrange"]The lizzard Queen[/COLOR][/B][/URL]
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Old 12-20-2007, 10:01 PM   #10
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As for the budget,Im gonna be putting a list of costs up at the very top post to keep a tally up..I'm gonna be junk yard hopping,bardering and begging to get under that budget..
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1984 cj8 350 on 35's..the wifes
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"offroad it, and wave then you might understand"[/QUOTE]
BLS Home Chapter... Where it all Started
:hahaha: yj

My low Buck Rock Crawler project Project..Stop by and check it out..[URL="http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=497896"][B][COLOR="DarkOrange"]The lizzard Queen[/COLOR][/B][/URL]
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Old 12-22-2007, 10:27 AM   #11
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I got the doner home this morning..Man this is gonna be wideeeeeee..Im loving it..
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1980 cj7 258 weber,5'' of lift,33'' boggers,lincoln locked,lockright and a snorkle...Khaki Jeep Club member No. 1
1984 cj8 350 on 35's..the wifes
[QUOTE=Me]
"offroad it, and wave then you might understand"[/QUOTE]
BLS Home Chapter... Where it all Started
:hahaha: yj

My low Buck Rock Crawler project Project..Stop by and check it out..[URL="http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=497896"][B][COLOR="DarkOrange"]The lizzard Queen[/COLOR][/B][/URL]
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Old 12-22-2007, 05:33 PM   #12
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Looking into thse for the axle swap for the rear..Seems like a decent kit,but wondering if there pad is as long as another companys anti wrap perches

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/14-bolt-simple-swap-p-184.html

found these..Looks decent for out boarding the front springs
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/mounting-platform-p-187.html
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1984 cj8 350 on 35's..the wifes
[QUOTE=Me]
"offroad it, and wave then you might understand"[/QUOTE]
BLS Home Chapter... Where it all Started
:hahaha: yj

My low Buck Rock Crawler project Project..Stop by and check it out..[URL="http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=497896"][B][COLOR="DarkOrange"]The lizzard Queen[/COLOR][/B][/URL]

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Old 12-23-2007, 05:48 PM   #13
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Those both look like good options and not bad for pricing. I just might go that route for my 1 ton swap instead of fabricating the outboarding spring mounts.
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:34 PM   #14
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I decided to install the couple of electric fans I have been sitting on for a while now..I pulled them out of a motor home during the summer..20 bucks for both..They fit perfectly next to each other and plenty of room for the water pump pully..pics will be up shorty
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1980 cj7 258 weber,5'' of lift,33'' boggers,lincoln locked,lockright and a snorkle...Khaki Jeep Club member No. 1
1984 cj8 350 on 35's..the wifes
[QUOTE=Me]
"offroad it, and wave then you might understand"[/QUOTE]
BLS Home Chapter... Where it all Started
:hahaha: yj

My low Buck Rock Crawler project Project..Stop by and check it out..[URL="http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=497896"][B][COLOR="DarkOrange"]The lizzard Queen[/COLOR][/B][/URL]

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Old 12-24-2007, 03:05 PM   #15
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You must be close - I remember seeing that on CraigsList for quite awhile after I bought mine. To say I am jelous is an uderstatement - the NP435 is what I'm now paying gobs of $$ to swap into mine - not to mention the patching of the rear frame that I had initially thought was great. Nutz!!!
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