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Unread 04-30-2012, 10:24 AM   #16
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I mentioned that my rear cross member was tweaked pretty badly. I think that my best bet would be to just replace it with a new one, I've seen the one that classic sells for $100 but am curious if there is something beefier out there? Since I'm going to go to the trouble of replacing I might as well upgrade if I can.

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Unread 04-30-2012, 10:52 AM   #17
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I think you're right on the money with your decisions so far. I'm not sure of the final look you are wanting to achieve though. That would be helpful in providing "advice". You're obviously not trying for the stock look, but you're making a big effort at the rear corners. I was going to suggest corner armor once you solve the rust issue, but with the effort you are making to restore the metal I think it would be a shame to cover up your work! Once you have reskinned the rear panel what are your tire carrier plans? Bumper mount would be a good choice, IMO. I'm sure you've seen plenty pictures of those. There is a guy that makes and sells a beefy rear crossmember. His username is Big Chief, or something like that. I'm sure someone will know right away. His crossmember was around the $100 price range, and it looked very good.

I am also working on a 79 CJ5, although it is glass. Good luck with your work. You've gotten a lot done.
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Unread 04-30-2012, 11:43 AM   #18
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Thanks skerr, I've perused through your thread a number of times and you have done an amazing job with that jeep. On my jeep I'm just attempting to get the tub somewhat straightened out, this isn't going to be a show jeep by any means but I am going to get it as straight as I can with the little knowledge that I have. I just know I won't be putting near as much filler back on this as there was when I started, and that alone makes me smile. I haven't fabbed them up yet but I will be adding tube fenders to the rears to match the front. Not sure on corner armor yet, been teetering back and forth on that one. The stock tire carrier however will definitely not be going back on, bumper mounted for sure.

Anyone else remember the member here who sells those crossmembers?
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Unread 05-01-2012, 12:07 PM   #19
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Well after searching for a while for my rear crossmember it appears that their aren't really that many options to choose from. I searched for the user big chief but couldn't find anything on that one.


It looks like genright makes a 3/16 crossmember but it is not plug and play to the cj and some modifications would be needed. Add to that the price, and it really isn't all that appealing. Has anyone used this?
http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=RBB1001


Next would be the classic customs rear crossmember, I have a pretty good idea that this one would be spec'd perfectly to my cj but they even say in the description that it is formed out of original gauge steel. Again the price is a bit high.
http://www.classicent.com/jeep.php


Then their is this one I stumbled on in an ebay search, says it's heavy gauge but is very vague. This one I'm not trusting so much.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Parts-CJ-5-7-8-Rear-Frame-Crossmember-New-Nice-/260743316315?item=260743316315&vxp=mtr#vi-desc


Last one that I came across was this rugged ridge one. I haven't been able to get many details on this one either.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-CJ-Rear-Crossmember-1976-1986-/260997655120#vi-content



So there seem to be my options, which one would you choose?
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Unread 05-01-2012, 12:25 PM   #20
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i went with this one from QT
http://www.quadratec.com/products/22526_01_07.htm

i had to do some rear frame repair and to do so required the crossmember to be scrapped anyway.
im pleased with it. it has all the prepunched holes that the OE did and welded right in. it comes well primered and my bumper bolted right back up to it.
no complaints here!

the genright one you have listed above says that it is not a direct bolt in for CJ's so it may take some fabbing. it does come with frame tie-in's so thats a plus.
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Unread 05-01-2012, 01:07 PM   #21
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Well after searching for a while for my rear crossmember it appears that their aren't really that many options to choose from. I searched for the user big chief but couldn't find anything on that one.


It looks like genright makes a 3/16 crossmember but it is not plug and play to the cj and some modifications would be needed. Add to that the price, and it really isn't all that appealing. Has anyone used this?
http://www.genright.com/ProductInfo.aspx?productid=RBB1001


Next would be the classic customs rear crossmember, I have a pretty good idea that this one would be spec'd perfectly to my cj but they even say in the description that it is formed out of original gauge steel. Again the price is a bit high.
http://www.classicent.com/jeep.php


Then their is this one I stumbled on in an ebay search, says it's heavy gauge but is very vague. This one I'm not trusting so much.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-Parts-CJ-5-7-8-Rear-Frame-Crossmember-New-Nice-/260743316315?item=260743316315&vxp=mtr#vi-desc


Last one that I came across was this rugged ridge one. I haven't been able to get many details on this one either.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jeep-CJ-Rear-Crossmember-1976-1986-/260997655120#vi-content



So there seem to be my options, which one would you choose?


I can't believe I found this!!! You should buy me a beer!

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/re...ement-1249057/
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Unread 05-01-2012, 01:56 PM   #22
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wow skerr thats great, thanks for digging that up for me! It looks like I'll be buying the next round for sure.
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Unread 05-01-2012, 02:02 PM   #23
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wow skerr thats great, thanks for digging that up for me! It looks like I'll be buying the next round for sure.
Now I have a reason to go to Washington!! Besides the beauty of the state...
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Unread 05-01-2012, 06:53 PM   #24
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I'm sitting here chuckling at your thread since it looks so much like what I've dealt with! I even just bought the same hammer/dolly set to knock out the same dents!!!!

Nice work so far!!
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I know I felt the same way going through yours pman. lol

I got home from work this evening and found my new bull bar from trailtubes waiting for me on my front steps. Here's a little teaser of whats to come with the front bumper...
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I'll be adding some more tubing to this, but this will be the base to build off of.
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Unread 05-05-2012, 08:37 PM   #26
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Super beefy rear crossmember

I got my rear crossmember from fedex today that Jason (chiefwaho) sent me. Super nice guy, and he shipped the crossmember in lightning speed. I would recomend his product to anyone looking for a replacement. As a bonus he threw in 4 frame tie in's as well.

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getting ahead of myself a bit with this picture, but here is the comparison from the old crossmember to the new.
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so now that we had the goods, instead of just looking at the thing all day we decided we'd try and get something done instead.

Figured it was as good a time as any to drop the gas tank, so that I could have access around the frame to cut out the old crossmember. Needed to get the worthless bumper out of the way as well.
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Next it was on to the crossmember, cutting this out with a 6" cutoff wheel. Cut it free each side of the frame then removed the excess after I had some room to work.
cutting.jpg
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Got the frame cleaned up and flapperdisked, had to notch the crossmember to fit around the shackle hangers but Jason had already made me aware of that. After those two cuts the crossmember got tacked in place and I started welding in the tie ins.
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I'm no expert welder by anymeans, but I do know that this is a lot stronger than what was on the back of my rig yesterday.
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body panel progress

Made some headway with the rear panel today. Had my brother in law over for a few hours and we decided to get the rear support channel tacked back in so we have something to build off of.

Before we could get it tacked up though we had some cleaning up to do. Got the area's that we were going to weld cleaned up and mocked it up in place to see how it was going to look. This thing was in pretty rough shape, and had a crack running all the way through the center that had to be welded solid.
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After we had all the area's prepped and ready for heat, I pulled the welder out and started tacking it in.
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Here is as far as I went with it for today, you can see some sizable gaps on the top half of this support. My plan it to cut some 3/16" gussets that will be welded inside the tub to add strength as well as fill that gap.
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HUGE improvements on the back end of the Jeep. Lookin' good! And again I have to laugh as I was wearing the same shorts/sandals while welding last week. That hot spatter felt nice burning holes through my feet.. I even had some molten steel fly into my ear canal (how the <expletive> did that happen)!

Can't wait to see the next installment.
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HUGE improvements on the back end of the Jeep. Lookin' good! And again I have to laugh as I was wearing the same shorts/sandals while welding last week. That hot spatter felt nice burning holes through my feet.. I even had some molten steel fly into my ear canal (how the <expletive> did that happen)!

Can't wait to see the next installment.

Thanks pman, I've never quite been a model of safety. . It's funny because I actually have a picture of a hole in those shorts from some splatter during that welding session. Nice and toasty buns. Lol
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