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post #91 of 546 Old 12-19-2010, 02:38 PM Thread Starter
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holes are drilled, and springs and shackles bolted up.
I am going to wait to weld the sleeve that goes through the frame in place till i get the body on and engine mocked up/ weight on the springs to make sure the shackle angle is where i want it to be. right now the shackle mount is at stock YJ distance from front hanger at 44.25" same as the rear.

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post #92 of 546 Old 12-19-2010, 06:05 PM
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DANG that looks good! Some serious beef. Nice work.

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DANG that looks good! Some serious beef. Nice work.
ya, these shackles are pretty beefy, I would recommend them to any looking for some new shackles.
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post #94 of 546 Old 12-20-2010, 06:48 AM
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Great job on the install. I like the shrouds around the grease zerts.
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post #95 of 546 Old 12-20-2010, 07:56 AM
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Hows this coming, it looks pretty nice so far! I love my MORE shackles but I havent done the shackle reverse.....but I keep thinking about it.

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Great job on the install. I like the shrouds around the grease zerts.
ya, i still need to get some more of those zerk protectors, I thought when i ordered them that they came in a set of two. but you only get one.
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post #97 of 546 Old 01-04-2011, 11:37 PM Thread Starter
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I did some grinding on the passenger side of the waggy 44 today to convert it to SOA. Just had to take a little off the bottom to fit the u-bolts around.
I set the perches on and bolted up the axle. I am not going to weld the perches on yet until i get the jeep fully moched up and weight on it to determine the caster needed.
It's really not that bad as every body says it is to convert the waggy front to a Spring over if you have the right perches to do it. I got some from BJ's off road that are for converting a jeep FJS axle to Spring over and they worked out perfect.

Correct me if i am wrong here, but,
If a stock axle has 5-6 degrees of caster and the shackles are mounted forward, AS the spring compresses and the shackles swing forward it gives the axle more + positive caster.
so,
If I have a SRS and the shackles are mounted rearwards, than as the spring compresses and the shackle swing back it will give me more - negative caster.
so,
my thoughts are that i should set the front axle up with about 8-10 degrees + positive caster, so that on compression it does not go into such a - negative situation.
but in doing so, that would also decrease my pinion angle.

my question for you guy's is
do you think it should just be set up with the stock 5-6 degrees caster to keep the pinion angle the same as it was or does the front pinion angle not matter that much?
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post #98 of 546 Old 01-05-2011, 12:23 AM
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I say split the difference, I am sure the springs will eventually settle in from where they will be sitting without any miles on them. So split it, and then it may endu up in the 6-7 range which could turn out to be a happy medium.

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post #99 of 546 Old 01-06-2011, 03:47 PM Thread Starter
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I pulled the early bronco 9" rear axle that I have sitting around out of the snow today. bolted it up temporarily to get some ideas. surprisingly enough it bolted right up with out having to move any perches. I started measuring for shock placement and brake lines. I will throw some pictures up tonight. I am starting to get exited again as things progress.

On a side note -who will be the lucky winner of the 100th post on this build?
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What year bronco 9" is that, and I am the lucky winner.

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post #101 of 546 Old 01-06-2011, 04:53 PM
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Shaun the axle is looking great. As is everything else. I think 8-10 degrees is going to be too much caster angle. 6 degree seems to be pretty common. As far as the pinion angle on the front axle goes. Most of the time when you use the front axle, engaged it's slower speeds, so pinion angle isn't going to matter at that point. It would be nice to have it pointed up some to keep the yokes from getting beat up though.

I'd be more concerned with the caster.
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What year bronco 9" is that, and I am the lucky winner.
It is a 1974' medium duty (big bearing) early bronco 9 inch at 58" wms-wms
congrats on the 100th person to post -You the man!!!

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Shaun the axle is looking great. As is everything else. I think 8-10 degrees is going to be too much caster angle. 6 degree seems to be pretty common. As far as the pinion angle on the front axle goes. Most of the time when you use the front axle, engaged it's slower speeds, so pinion angle isn't going to matter at that point. It would be nice to have it pointed up some to keep the yokes from getting beat up though.

I'd be more concerned with the caster.
Ya, I started to think about it, and i think i will go with 6-8 degrees.
I can see that i am going to need a new tranny skid plate also.
the front drive shaft is going to hit the stock one with this steep of drive angle. and I am somehow going to need to mount a shackle mount to it for a traction bar.
And besides, your new skid is looking HOT!!!
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It is a 1974' medium duty (big bearing) early bronco 9 inch at 58" wms-wms
congrats on the 100th person to post -You the man!!!



Ya, I started to think about it, and i think i will go with 6-8 degrees.
I can see that i am going to need a new tranny skid plate also.
the front drive shaft is going to hit the stock one with this steep of drive angle. and I am somehow going to need to mount a shackle mount to it for a traction bar.
And besides, your new skid is looking HOT!!!
Thanks Shaun. Hey it's done too and bolted on.

Somewhere I've read that tire size also has an impact on how much caster you need. Seems like the bigger the tire the less you need. Might want to look at that too.
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post #104 of 546 Old 01-06-2011, 06:29 PM Thread Starter
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Pictures of progress as promised!
Front End -
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