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Unread 05-29-2002, 10:29 PM   #1
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pricing a TJ to get a CJ

Hi fellas
Here's what I've got:
2000 Silver TJ Sport
4.0 straight 6
Auto
30" tires
40K miles
Great condition.
Here's what I want:
Something big, something mean, something incredibly trail worthy.
I want a manual, I'd LOVE a CJ, but I'm afraid by trading my virtually new jeep in for an older (cooler) jeep, I'll not only loose money in the trade, but also trade a perfectly dependable jeep for one that may give me lots of mechanical trouble. And my jeep is my primary vehicle.
But it will be cool. and big. and tough, and a manual transmission.
Any suggestions?? Add onto my own? Sell it and get my dream car (despite how impractical it is?!)
I'm sure I have a biased audience, but your opinions would be appreciated!!

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Unread 05-29-2002, 11:22 PM   #2
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Keep your TJ .Save a little cash and buy a cj that needs work ,or change genres and pick up a commando .My point is keep your daily driver and get a second jeep to build and wheel . I have bunches of em so I can always drive at least one of them !
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Unread 05-30-2002, 02:24 AM   #3
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This one's a no-brainer. Trade the auto for a manual Wrangler of similar year/features. Only get a CJ if you can get one under $1000 and your willing to put 4 months and $1500-$2000 into it (which by the way is MUCH underrated fun!).
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Unread 05-30-2002, 07:50 AM   #4
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I bought a CJ, put a TON of money into it, and then found that 10 mpg was not practical regardless of the fun! So I bought a TJ! The TJ's my daily driver, so I'm free to do more to the CJ.
I agree with the above post. Buy a used CJ that you can get cheap, and do the work to it slowly as you can afford. Keep the TJ, though.
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Unread 05-30-2002, 09:52 PM   #5
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Cheap CJ's are that way for a reason.....they wern't taken care of and are now a POS that you would need to pour tons of $ into just to make it streetworthy. I paid 8K for my one owner, 40K mile CJ-7 over 11 years ago. It has over 150K miles now, and I wouldn't sell it for anything. It's more reliable than the Toyota I owned and has been my daily driver this whole time. I don't pour tons of $ into it, just routine care (wax, oil, brakes, tires......) and compared to the 23K I'd spent on a new TJ.I got the better deal. Problem is, nice CJ's are hard to find. Keep what you have for now and wait for a nice one, or beef up the TJ. That 600 dollar Jeep isn't a good deal in the long run.
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Unread 05-31-2002, 11:41 AM   #6
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Definately keep your TJ because it's your primary vehicle which needs to be dependable and get at least resonable gas mileage. When you find a good deal on a CJ buy it and build it up the way you want it.
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Unread 05-31-2002, 12:21 PM   #7
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Okay, by a landslide everyone is telling me to keep my TJ. I do love it. It just needs so much to not be so....stock. I found a '70 CJ with only 37k miles, Warn winch, 33X12.5, & a new top for $7,500. And I found an '80 CJ5, chevy 350, 4'lift, 33inch swampers, warn winch, for $9.5K.(is is hot in here?) I'm in love. It's beautiful (isn't it junkskunk?)
But like most jeep owners, I don't have $10,000 laying around, thus the TJ delimma. Sell, & buy this jeep, (and the extra could even go to buying my sisters old corolla that is still hanging with the best of 'em.)
I suppose I'll just fix up my jeep for now, and save the CJ dream for when I get a raise or something. But your advice has been priceless!
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Unread 05-31-2002, 11:23 PM   #8
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The jeep TJ is a far better jeep then a CJ I own a CJ the TJ has coil springs which makes far better articulation. I am thinking of modifying my CJ to coil suspension. So My advice is keep the TJ if anything trade it off for a manual TJ the fuel injected 4 litre is a great motor and hase alot more power then a 4.2 liter in a cj or there stock V8s. And the fuel injection is far superior to carburated in many ways. Keep the TJ.
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Unread 06-01-2002, 01:52 AM   #9
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I found a '70 CJ with only 37k miles </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Ha ha, there is no such thing! It's either 137,000 or more likely 237,000. A '70 CJ would be a great addition regardless of miles, because the 225 Dauntless V6 is a workhorse. Offer $1500 for it.

Is there a way to either trade for a manual Wrangler or swap out transmissions inexpensively? (BWahhahhaha!, I know, not possible to do anything inexpensively). Sounds like you'd be better suited cruisin' around campus in a stick shift. OH the noticable improvement in driving pleasure!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
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Unread 06-01-2002, 02:48 PM   #10
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My thoughts exactly about the milage on the 70 CJ. But he swore a doctor drove it some to work nearby, then sold it to a guy collecting, who basically kept it in a garage. It's a used car--you NEVER know what they are being truthful about.
And I had the same idea about switching the auto for a manual transmission. I think it can be done, but you have to change out and reprogram everything. A big job, but I haven't actually spoken to an expert to get the details. On the other hand, buying the jeep was a NIGHTMARE I swore I'd never do over again. Is selling a jeep and buying another in it's place any easier? Atleast I know with my jeep it's history. I certainly can't afford a brand new one. Thoughts??
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Rancho Steering Stabilizer
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Unread 06-02-2002, 02:49 AM   #11
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Hmmmm...switching the auto for a manual tranny may be more hell than what it's worth. But why was your buying experience so bad?!? If you're curious, there have been many threads posted here lately on buying tips. Perhaps search the archives!

Selling and buying again may not be as bad, especially buying the 2nd time around. Now you know a bit more precisely what you're in for--having done it once. Selling can be rough, but it's good experience and can be MUCH fun. Many good people here can help you prepare you for the sale and prep ya for the buy. If you have no other transpo to get ya through the interim, then a trade-in for a used Jeep at a dealer may be your best bet for MANY reasons (no headache in selling; dealer stands behind it, zero down time, etc...). What do you think?
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Unread 06-03-2002, 12:29 PM   #12
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I bought my jeep from BEAUFORD AUTO PLAZA IN BEAUFORD, GA. It is just north of atlanta. They are slimy, greedy, BLATENTLY lying CAR SALESMEN. So anyone within this area, STAY AWAY!!!! They lied to me about the condition of the jeep (knowing I was about to embark on a 3 hour drive to get it). I get there, and the jeep isn't what THEY ADVERTISED. So I talked them down some to compensate. Later I found other things that were different than what was advertised! They didn't incorporate taxes, etc. into the loan as they said they would (I can't pay almost $500 out of pocket!). They put the title in my dad's name, then sent it to the wrong bank. They fixed that error, but still spelled my name wrong (and it was still addressed to the wrong bank). So I went through another nightmare in the NC DMV as a result. That, sadly, is the short version. I hate them. I still have flashbacks.
Well, due to a little, tiny offroad trip (like logs, ditches, and kinda steep hills) last night, my transmission is messed up. a couple months ago, I got water in the transmission (seal broke), so now anytime I take it offroad, and remotely work the transmission harder than highway driving, he freaks out on me (yes, it's a boy). So I can no longer go offroad in this jeep. (moment of silence please)
I have to sell it soon, so the miles will still be below 50,000 and the transmission still fools ya into thinking it's fine. But with negative equity and all, it is gonna be hard. I REALLY thought I wouldn't be doing this again so soon. If your car buying experiences have been so pleasant, why don't you come to NC and help me out <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
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