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Prestolite to teamrush upgrade- Amc 360 v8
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03-16-2009, 04:42 PM
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1973 CJ5
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Prestolite to teamrush upgrade- Amc 360 v8
I have the Summit cdi module and my remain motorcraft dizzy is on order. My question is can I run the stock can coil or should I upgrade to the E-coil? Also my wires are new 7mm, should those be replaced too? Is the msd cap worth it or should I go 79 ford 302 standard cap w/ brass terminals? Thanks jeephammer and anyone else!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-16-2009, 05:20 PM
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1977 CJ5
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I used the following parts to get my 304's ignition upgraded. They all perform like a dream for me. I would step up to at least 8mm wires (MSD preferably) and definitely get an E-core coil. The MSD "cap-a-dapts"" set can not be beat IMO. It uses the HEI style dizzy top which locks your wires in place.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MSD-8414&N=700+115&autoview=sku http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MSD-3119&N=700+115&autoview=sku http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM-850602&N=700+400304+322383+115&autoview=sku http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SUM-850500M&N=700+400304+115&autoview=sku |
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03-16-2009, 08:50 PM
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1973 CJ5
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No issues what so ever once a CDI module is used! ------------------- Spark plug wires aren't an issue as long as you have the correct terminals for the new cap. Nothing beats MSD for good caps! If you want to buy a 'Premium' cap from somewhere else, then be my guest, just make sure it has brass terminals.
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03-16-2009, 10:01 PM
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1973 CJ5
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would upgrading the coil be a benefit? Or just a waste of cash. Also, the application for the stock cap and rotor that will fit the amc dizzy is 79 ford 1/2 ton 302 v8. Is that correct? Thanks again.
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03-16-2009, 10:02 PM
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1977 CJ7
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Greenville, North Carolina
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I just did the cap/rotor/wire upgrade to my 360. I found the MSD Cap/Rotor kit at Advance Auto and it didn't cost more than any other brass terminal cap and rotor.
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Check this site out
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77 CJ-7- AMC 360, Edelbrock cam, MC2100, Fenderwells, T150/D20, NT D30/D44, 3.73, 4" Superlift, 33x12.50 BFG KMs, Shackle Reversal, Home built 4x4 tube bumpers, KC Daylighters Future Plans: Waggy 44 front, Scout II 44 rear, Lockers, 35s or so, winch, T18, twin stick. 73 CJ6-Future project when I get out of school |
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03-17-2009, 01:54 AM
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1978 CJ7
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I just did the cap-a-dapt,coil up grade, and plug wires(8.5) all MSD and was it well worth it. Fires right up, Idles smother,runs much better. I would highly advise using the MSD Ign. parts good quaility!!!!!!!
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03-17-2009, 03:31 PM
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1973 CJ5
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There is no such thing as an 'UPGRADE'... Any coil you drive with that MSD module is going to put out 500% to 600% more spark energy than the factory ignition, And any 'Increase' would be so small you wouldn't hardly be able to gauge it on an Oscilloscope, and I'm absolutely sure you wouldn't be able to feel the difference in the drivers seat... Ford use the 'Large Cap' and cap adapter on nearly everything V-8 from '75 to '84, so any of the above listed will work. I just use '79 as a likely years since I have a '79 Jeep, and the '79 Distributor is the last year with full advance built into it.
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03-17-2009, 04:55 PM
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1973 CJ5
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The dizzy that I ordered was from a 82 wagoneer 360. The part numbers are the same for all the Amc v8 that had the motorcraft dizzy. So what is the difference between full advance and not? Thanks Jeephammer.
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03-17-2009, 10:14 PM
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Running On Empty...
1973 CJ5
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I don't know where you ordered it, but there should be a split, two numbers for the '78 to '82 or '83, and the '82 or '83 to '90.
Just check it for advance when you get it...
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03-18-2009, 10:18 AM
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1973 CJ5
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Cardone industries 30-4891. Same for 79 waggy as 89 waggy. I Dont know how to check for full advance. You make it sound easy.... Thanks jeephammer!
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03-18-2009, 09:00 PM
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Just subscribing, thanks guys.
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03-18-2009, 10:07 PM
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Running On Empty...
1973 CJ5
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It is easy, just leave the vacuum advance unhooked and plugged, and rev up the engine to about 1,200 RPM or 1,500 rpm, and directly read the advance from the balancer.
Subtract the 'Initial' setting (around 6 Degrees) and that will be the centrifugal advance total. If you want to get REAL technical about it, you get shell out $4 for timing tapes that wrap around your balancer to tell EXACTLY how much advance you are getting... Nothing to it really. And if you want MORE Centrifugal advance, it's built into the distributor and with about 30 minutes work you can add about 5 degrees more centrifugal advance. (5 degrees doesn't sound like much, but take my word for it, it's A LOT in the bottom end like that!)
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REMEMBER, 'Free' internet information is worth EXACTLY what you paid for it! LINK:Dual Battery Diagrams & Explanations. LINK:Winch, Welding, 'Lend Power' Project, LINK:Water Proofing Ignition, Hubs, Ect., LINK:BSERK's Winch Plate, LINK:AMC V-8 Front Cover Recondition, LINK:How An Ignition Works, LINK:Ignition Swaps '77 Older Jeeps, LINK:'78-'90 Jeep Ignition Upgrades, |
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03-19-2009, 06:49 PM
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1973 CJ5
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Team Rush is done! Took all of 2 hours at the most. Very easy after getting all the right parts. Now all I have to do is clean up the wiring and we are good to go. Thanks Jeephammer and everyone else.
Parts Cardone 30-4891 dizzy msd 3119 wires msd 8414 cap and rotor kit msd 8869 wire adapter original coil- for now... summit 850602 cdi Last edited by 2manytoys2; 03-19-2009 at 08:22 PM.. |
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