Power Steering box identification - JeepForum.com
Search  
Sign Up   Today's Posts
User: Pass: Remember?
Advertise Here
Jeep Home Jeep Forum Jeep Classifieds Jeep Registry JeepSpace Jeep Reviews Jeep Gallery Jeep Clubs Jeep Groups Jeep Videos Jeep Events Jeep Articles
Go Back JeepForum.com > Models > Jeep CJ Forum > Power Steering box identification

Year End Clearance Sale! Save 20%Savvy FREE SHIPPING!Artec Holiday Sale!

Reply
Unread 11-15-2012, 07:27 AM   #1
CoolSpot
Registered User
1976 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Blainville, Quebec
Posts: 3
Power Steering box identification

Hi every one,

New guy here! Just bought a 76 CJ5 with a couple mods on it!
I'm from Quebec, Canada
First Jeep for me... a friend of me bought a 75 Toyota Fj-40 and convince me to go Off-road



Mods I'm aware:
-full fiberglass body
-33''
-Chevy 327 V8 (from a 68 corvette)
-Front disc brakes
-Power brake (was it stock?)
-Power steering


I have a few questions regarding my steering box if anyone can help
Here's a few pictures of my steering box:




I know it's a Saginaw with inverted flare connections...but I'm not convinced that this is a CJ box...

Both lines are 3/8'' OD
Pressure line was connected to the front port(3/4) and return line was on 5/8'' port.

I ordered a rebuild kit and new steering shaft coupling and coupling does not fit, it's too big.

Last thing.. the top nut (requiring a spanner wrench) is a pita to remove... any idea were I can find a tool or something to help?

Thanks a lot

CoolSpot is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-15-2012, 07:38 AM   #2
keith460
Jeep. There's Only One
 
keith460's Avatar
1984 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Doylestown, PA
Posts: 5,031
Looks like an earlier Jeep J20 box with a 3/4" Steering Gear Box Input Shaft Diameter.

Power steering gear boxes for a CJ would have a 13/16" Input Shaft Diameter and no protruding nipple.
__________________
.
1984 CJ-7 Renegade
__________________

Restoration Thread:http://www.jeepsunlimited.com/forums...d.php?t=434226
keith460 is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-15-2012, 07:47 AM   #3
waterdowg
Registered User
1984 CJ7 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: nj
Posts: 2,250
Keith may be right. Can you measure the front round part of the box? That will help a little. The J20 box is bigger, and is a popular upgrade to a CJ.
waterdowg is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-15-2012, 08:22 AM   #4
lucdog
Web Wheeler
 
lucdog's Avatar
1980 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: , Il.
Posts: 8,158
I believe the J20 box is 4" on the end, whereas the CJ box is 3.75".

Bill
__________________
1957 WILLYS pickup, needs work.
1973 J 4000,
1978 CJ7 DD.
1979 CJ7 360, TH400/Quadratrac trail Jeep.
1979 J20
1980 CJ5 trail Jeep.
1983 CJ7 pretty weekend and sometimes to work Driver in the summer, My first rebuild, if the Q-trac and 5 are broke, this one is the one to take. its just as capable as the other 2, except nice paint.
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 1 ton axles, great 360/727, and a big a$& tree fell on it .
1989 YJ the CJ to YJ conversion.
2005 TJ Rubicon.
2011 Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, Mrs. LUCDOG's DD.
Lots of parts not for sale, i'm a hoarder.
lucdog is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-15-2012, 08:39 AM   #5
CSP
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Colorado
Posts: 12,765
Definitely not a CJ box with that "nipple" protruding from the end of the input shaft. J-truck boxes do have that protrusion as they use a rag joint vs a bell coupler that CJ's use.
CSP is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-15-2012, 12:24 PM   #6
CoolSpot
Registered User
1976 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Blainville, Quebec
Posts: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by lucdog View Post
I believe the J20 box is 4" on the end, whereas the CJ box is 3.75".
Outside Diameter is 3.75'' Piston looks like 3'', could be a old J10 box?
CoolSpot is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-15-2012, 12:52 PM   #7
CSP
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Colorado
Posts: 12,765
Could be a Waggie/J10/Cherokee. Those have the smaller, 3/4" input shaft.
CSP is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Unread 11-15-2012, 07:48 PM   #8
JeffreyCharles
Registered User
1976 CJ5 
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vallejo, CA
Posts: 621
I don't know the answer - haven't pulled my (non-stock) Saginaw box ever so don't know much about it. But these guys know everything so you probably already have your answer. As for power brakes, they were an option. I don't have 'em on mine. Someone drove mine the other day, just around a parking lot. Climbed out and said "there's something wrong with your brakes! I could barely stop!" hee hee. If you have me walk 100' I'll probably veer to the left a bit due to the stronger muscles in my right leg...

Meanwhile, great find! Looks just the first CJ5 I ever rode in back in the late 80's.
__________________
Jeffrey Charles
http://jeep.smallcraft.net/
JeffreyCharles is offline   Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.
Note: All free e-mails have been banned due to mis-use. (Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, etc.)
Don't have a non-free e-mail address? Click here for a solution: Manual Account Creation
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Thread Tools






Jeep, Wrangler, Cherokee, Grand Cherokee, and other models are copyrighted and trademarked to Jeep/Chrysler Corporation. JeepForum.com is not in any way associated with Jeep or the Chrysler Corp.