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Unread 02-17-2012, 05:33 PM   #1
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Pics and/or diagrams of 304 alternator brackets w/ York AC?

I sure could use some pics of the alternator brackets on a 304 that also has a York AC compressor.

I have the York mount and a bunch of other brackets that came with it (got it from ebay, used). I know that the non AC alternator bracket that is currently on my Jeep won't work.

I've been eyeballing the situation and I think I have all brackets and bolts and the guy said they were all there. I'd just like to see a pic or diagram of the alternator brackets installed before I tear it all apart and start my OBA project.

I just don't want to get the thing ripped apart and find out I'm missing some hard to find piece that will keep my Jeep down for an extended period of time...

Thanks guys...

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Unread 02-17-2012, 05:44 PM   #2
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This might help.
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Unread 02-17-2012, 07:33 PM   #3
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Maybe this will help?

I believe bracket number 1 is for non A/C, the one in MoC's middle picture is the one for A/C (obviously)
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Unread 02-18-2012, 03:36 AM   #4
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Here are the instructions to a dealer re-fit to put A/C on a non A/C engine. I used to have the NOS complete kit but ended up selling it since it didn't fit my engine, and I had already bought one that had A/C on it.

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Unread 02-18-2012, 05:16 AM   #5
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Here are the instructions to a dealer re-fit to put A/C on a non A/C engine. I used to have the NOS complete kit but ended up selling it since it didn't fit my engine, and I had already bought one that had A/C on it.
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Can you e-mail me a larger version of that diagram please? I'd like that for my records. Way cool!
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Unread 02-18-2012, 07:50 AM   #6
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Unfortunately this is the only size I have of it. I have it posted on Photobucket, so you are welcome to copy it off there if you like.

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I will email the guys that have asked for a copy as well.
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Unread 02-18-2012, 11:08 AM   #7
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Thanks guys!

Moc's pics look like the stuff I have. I was able to identify almost all the pieces I have on those pics. I should be able to figure the others out.

Now I gotta get all my fittings, hoses, air tank, etc... then it's game on. I want to have EVERYTHING ready to go when I do this, so I can get it done in a day or so.

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Unread 02-18-2012, 12:39 PM   #8
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I'm doing this right now on a 304. The biggest issue I am running into is the crank pulley. To run AC on it, you need a 3 groove pulley. My harmonic balancer uses 3 bolts to mount the pulley. The 3 groove pulleys use a 4 bolt mounting system. I think I am going to have to swap to a newer 304 balancer with the 4 bolt surface. My brackets look a little bit different than those shown. I will take pics later.
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Why wouldn't a two groove pulley work? Looking at the pics above, MoC is using a 3 groove, but two of the belts are doing the same thing.

Couldn't you just route one belt over to the power steering (leave the same) and have one belt around the alternator and York? I was just figuring the two groove would work, as long as things lined up, now you got me wondering...?
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Unread 02-18-2012, 05:22 PM   #10
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The York pulls quite a bit when its compressing. Plus, it also runs the alternator so you want to make sure its well driven. The third and outer grove goes around the crank, water pump, and power steering pump.

I just got in from the shop a few minutes ago. Besides the power steering pump, everything is mounted. Once everything checks out, it all comes off for paint.







Figured out a cool way to hang stuff to paint that is not too heavy. Pick up a few of the pants hangers from department stores. The ones with the clips on the rod. Clip the hanger onto something up high, and use the hook to hold up what your painting. The hook rotates.

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Unread 02-18-2012, 06:06 PM   #11
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Here is a pic from the factory service manual showing the belt routing for the setup I am running.
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Unread 02-18-2012, 06:59 PM   #12
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CRAP! I wasn't planning on that. Well, looks like I'm gonna need to get the three groove pulleys and a two groove alternator pulley.

Glad you guys showed me this now and not when I had the thing tore apart and half back together...

My OBA project may just get pushed back for next winters project list, unless I can scrounge up the pulleys quickly and cheaply.

Thanks for saving me a HUGE headache!!!
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Unread 02-19-2012, 12:13 AM   #13
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I am running just the one belt and works just fine. I have it wired so the compressor runs only when I flip the switch so the rest of the time it just free wheels. Some day if I ever find the 3 grove pullies Ill probably use them, but so far it has proven to be a non issue.
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Unread 02-19-2012, 03:37 AM   #14
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Hi BuckleshootCJ5

Kilby sells a bracket kit for 304/360 without AC (York):

http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/KE-8000.htm
Installation manual: http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/web-...ns/ke-8000.htm

I can't find the price anywhere, but I bet it's not cheap...

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Unread 02-19-2012, 04:12 AM   #15
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Thomas_j:
Thank you for posting the instructions! When I bought my 304 it had that kit installed and for the life of me I can’t remember how to put it back. All I need now is the time to put it back together.

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