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Unread 10-22-2009, 02:55 PM   #1
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One Piece Front Clip

Does anyone have a one piece fiberglass front clip? (Where the hood, grill and fenders all fold up together.) Love it? hate it?

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Unread 10-22-2009, 03:32 PM   #2
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I love the access it allows you to work on the engine in the garage. I can sit on the tire and change plugs.

I don't like it when outdoors in the wind, it can get thrown around, kind of flimsy. Also hard to get open in an off camber situation, the inner fender hits the tire when opening and closing. Mine opens to the windshield.
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Unread 10-22-2009, 03:57 PM   #3
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My buddy has 1 on his CJ 5 and it definately makes it easy to work on the engine. He has never complained.
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Unread 10-22-2009, 08:02 PM   #4
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I have one, and love it. There's a lot of work going this route, though.

You have to mount the radiator to the frame.

Front lights have to be grounded to something.

Hood hold downs have to be modified.

Anything that was mounted to the inner fenders, may have to be relocated.

If you're going to run large tires, the nose may hit the tires.

I run 33's, and had to cut the nose, and fasten the cut parts permanently to the cowl.

Here are a few pics...

This shows the cut piece fastened to the cowl...



The hood hold down hardware...





Radiator support brackets...





To me, it's well worth the access it allows. Last spring I swapped engines just by lifting the nose back. That's pretty sweet!

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Unread 11-24-2011, 01:19 AM   #5
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I am seeing these different mounting ways I like the one with the regular hood hold down on the front but where do i get the bump stops and radiator support I am looking to do this without to much modifing
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Unread 11-24-2011, 02:28 AM   #6
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On the one I have, the radiator supports are 1.5" angle welded to the frame. I drilled holes in the angle for the rods, and hood prop rod. The bushings, I didn't use any, but will on my YJ to CJ conversion. Rix's look like body mount bushings. You would also want pins on the bottom of the grill, to fit into the bushings.

On a stock CJ with 31's the bottom of the fenders rubbed the tires when opening. Rix's is cut higher than mine will be.


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Unread 11-24-2011, 02:58 AM   #7
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On the one I have, the radiator supports are 1.5" angle welded to the frame. I drilled holes in the angle for the rods, and hood prop rod. The bushings, I didn't use any, but will on my YJ to CJ conversion. Rix's look like body mount bushings. You would also want pins on the bottom of the grill, to fit into the bushings.

On a stock CJ with 31's the bottom of the fenders rubbed the tires when opening. Rix's is cut higher than mine will be.


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Damn My Cj is stock height with 31s lol So how do Igot about fixin this problem?

I like the idea or angle Iron to the radiator and body mounts would be perfect just run a bolt thru the bottom to line up with the mounts and guide it in , see I can be taught lol

what about propping it up if I lean it back like a regular hood how to prop it I was thinking Hydrolic trunk shocks or sumthing
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Unread 11-24-2011, 05:09 AM   #8
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It looks to me, Rixcj does what I do. Lay it against the windshield.

On mine there isn't much on the inside for strut mounting. If needed, something like a 2x2 could be glassed in.

Some of the things needing change. That's easy, everything mounted currently to your fenders.
Look how RixCJ trimed the lower fender area.


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Can I see Rixcj Jeep with the hood down , to mee it look kinda funky cut lik that ,just weighting my options I dont wanan buy a 300 dollar mounting kit lol
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Unread 11-24-2011, 07:22 AM   #10
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Not sure if it works on a CJ but glass front ends on cars typically tilt forward (like a lawn mower). They are also a pain to remove when you are by yourself, even tilting a lightweigth one it difficult single handed. Here's one on a FJ.
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Unread 11-24-2011, 10:10 AM   #11
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Can I see Rixcj Jeep with the hood down , to mee it look kinda funky cut lik that ,just weighting my options I dont wanan buy a 300 dollar mounting kit lol


In my opinion, there's no advantage to having the nose tip forward. It's a lot more work to install, and the nose is in your way when doing anything to the front of your engine.

Plus, if you look at that Toyota, part of it's fender is mounted to the firewall (cowl), as well.

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rix how much lift and what size tires are on your five?
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Rick, yours is very clean, how floppy is it? If it is a concern (again the ones I have dealt with are lightweight for racing) it could probably be sured up with some quick connects and re-enforcements.
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Cool thread. I was just gonna ask the same. Since mine was rolled, I grabbed a 1 pc w/a Kentol mount kit for $400.00. Solid 'glass. Seemed cheaper than new fenders & hood. Of course I still need a w-shield frame & glass. I'm gonna tilt FWD. No winch and afraid of the thing blowing open on the hi-way... towards me!
Thanx for the info rixcj!

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Unread 11-24-2011, 06:45 PM   #15
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rix how much lift and what size tires are on your five?
I'm not sure of the suspension lift, if any. It was on the jeep when I bought it. It may be stock, but there is about a 1.5" body lift. The tires are 33's.

The jeep had 32's on it when I bought it. When I put the 33's on it, I had to cut the fenders to clear the tires when tilting the nose back. The nose was OK, uncut, with the 32's.

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Rick, yours is very clean, how floppy is it? If it is a concern (again the ones I have dealt with are lightweight for racing) it could probably be sured up with some quick connects and re-enforcements.
It is not floppy at all...BUT...I have a very good 'glass tub and nose, as far as quality goes!! That's very important!! I have seen cheaper ones that were paper thin, and very flimsy. I can imagine that they would be very floppy.

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Cool thread. I was just gonna ask the same. Since mine was rolled, I grabbed a 1 pc w/a Kentol mount kit for $400.00. Solid 'glass. Seemed cheaper than new fenders & hood. Of course I still need a w-shield frame & glass. I'm gonna tilt FWD. No winch and afraid of the thing blowing open on the hi-way... towards me!
Thanx for the info rixcj!
If your 1-piece is good quality, you did good. New, a Kentrol nose, shipped to you, is about $1K.

I also just bought an uninstalled (used) Kentrol nose for $400.00 for the second jeep that I'm building. I was tickled pink to find it on ebay.

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