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post #526 of 1022 Old 03-12-2013, 12:24 AM
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Matt,

Did you use the Crabtree CJ/YJ Spring Hanger Set on this? Looking forward to this same upgrade as soon as I get back out of the sandbox.

Jeep looks great by the way.

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post #527 of 1022 Old 03-13-2013, 07:13 AM
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Guys, it is entirely possible I missed it, but if I get the OME 2.5" YJ springs, along with everything else I need to do the conversion, will I be able to still fit my 33x12.50's? I just don't want to do a SOA.

Sorry if this is remedial, but I searched and did not find a straight answer.

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Guys, it is entirely possible I missed it, but if I get the OME 2.5" YJ springs, along with everything else I need to do the conversion, will I be able to still fit my 33x12.50's? I just don't want to do a SOA.

Sorry if this is remedial, but I searched and did not find a straight answer.

Thanks!!
33"s will rub without additional body, or shackle (not recommended) lift.

My 32" BFG ATs, which actually only measured about 31.5" brand new, clear by about 5/8" in the rear when I tuck the tire.

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33"s will rub without additional body, or shackle (not recommended) lift.

My 32" BFG ATs, which actually only measured about 31.5" brand new, clear by about 5/8" in the rear when I tuck the tire.

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THANKS!!! I really didn't want to do any kind of body lift. Maybe an inch will do....

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Stock gears for now.
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post #530 of 1022 Old 03-22-2013, 06:42 AM
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Anyone using the OME shackles? Everything ive seen says the front set goes as per the pic below and the rear goes the opposite with the short side downwards. The problem with this is the crabtree hangers will hit the support bar on the front.

Note the support bar is removed to enable the spring to be mounted and the diff to be installed

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I'd say that's the way they go, and the support bar also keeps them from inverting when extended. It's kind of like a plated boomerang shackle.

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Seams every one is doin this lift to cj7 but will it work on a old cj5
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Most kits say they only work for 76 and newer CJs is there a reason y they won't work on older CJs
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Anyone using the OME shackles? Everything ive seen says the front set goes as per the pic below and the rear goes the opposite with the short side downwards. The problem with this is the crabtree hangers will hit the support bar on the front.

Note the support bar is removed to enable the spring to be mounted and the diff to be installed
Do you have an weight on the springs or are the just hanging? They should correct themselves whenever the weight of the engine pushes on them.

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Most kits say they only work for 76 and newer CJs is there a reason y they won't work on older CJs
I'm not 100% but everything says the Cj5 has a 2.5" width on the rear...
I'm pretty sure my 72 is the same 2" width front and rear.
If so on the earlier years you will have to change the hangers too.

I plan on finding out before long though.
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Do you have an weight on the springs or are the just hanging? They should correct themselves whenever the weight of the engine pushes on them.

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Thats full extention, no weight on them so with the pin installed its going to reduce flex and wear that pin out. im going to flip them and see it that works better.
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Another day, another hold up....

You guys were absolutely correct. The stock front Cj shackles won't work with the wider YJ springs and conversion spacer because the bolts are too short. If you want to use the stock shackles in front, you need to buy (4) 1/2" x 4.5" bolts with nuts.

Also, if you want new bushings and sleeves all the way around , you need (2) sleeves per shackle, for a total of (8) sleeves. The kit from 4WD only came with (4) shackle sleeves. So you need to order (4) more.

Four bolts and sleeves are darn cheaper than buying new shackles, but the delays and cost of finding those parts probably make it a wash. If I were to do it again, I'd buy the OME YJ shackles.

My Ol' Girl is still in pieces in the garage, so I don't have much else to share. I hope to find the extra sleeves I need in town, tomorrow...I'm sure that will turn into a treasure hunt like everything else on this thing.

Last note for the evening: OME does make an appropriate shock for the CJ. Apparently, there was a part # mistake at 4WD, and that's why I received the wrong ones...so they say. Anyway, I'm supposed to get the correct ones on Monday or Tuesday.

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Just a heads up, the above parts do NOT fit the ARB/OME bushes but they may fit other brands. Ive now bought the ARB shackle kits and they dont supply the non-shackle end bolts with them. The 1/2" bolts are miles to small. You will need 9/16th bolts to fit the ARB/OME springs.
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Just a heads up, the above parts do NOT fit the ARB/OME bushes but they may fit other brands. Ive now bought the ARB shackle kits and they dont supply the non-shackle end bolts with them. The 1/2" bolts are miles to small. You will need 5/8th bolts to fit the ARB/OME springs.
Not if you use the correct sleeves inside the bushings.

I believe it's all documented earlier in the thread.

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Mornin' gentlemen,

A quick question....

My OME lift kit did not come with u-bolt skid plates. Currently my u-bolts hang down about an inch below the mounting plate (see pic). I'll be cutting those down to just below the nuts. I'm thinking about either making a set, or buying a set of skids.

Is anyone using the Warrior set, and how do you like them?

Any pictures of home-made skids? All advise is welcomed.

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Mornin' gentlemen,

A quick question....

My OME lift kit did not come with u-bolt skid plates. Currently my u-bolts hang down about an inch below the mounting plate (see pic). I'll be cutting those down to just below the nuts. I'm thinking about either making a set, or buying a set of skids.

Is anyone using the Warrior set, and how do you like them?

Any pictures of home-made skids? All advise is welcomed.

Matt
Why not just cut them to the proper lemgth?
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