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Unread 07-29-2011, 10:17 PM   #31
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Uhh...its getting the OME lift done, HD tie rod and drag link flip, and HD steering box brace. Having the front axle stripped down and re-painted while its out as well.







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Unread 07-30-2011, 05:56 AM   #32
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85LaredoCJ7,

Nice. I should probably look into replacing some of my steering components, as well. It's all straight, and the bushings are all intact, but they are getting a little sloppy.

Will you run a steering stabilizer shock with that setup?

It's looks like I'll need a special tool for that exercise, as well, eh?

The Ol' Girl's bumper got a facelift this morning.

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Unread 07-30-2011, 08:53 AM   #33
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Yeah....will be running a new stabilizer as well. You can buy the flip kit from ok4wd. It comes with the 3 sleeves for the bottom part of the hole for the TR and DL, and the reemer.

I am going to be going with a new front bumper. Something small and simple. I guess the Laredo bumper will be going to the stash of OE parts in the garage taking up space . I thought about trimming up the Laredo bumper......but don't have the heart.
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Unread 07-30-2011, 10:29 AM   #34
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you guys both are doing a bang up job on the suspension lifts...a pain now but well worth it in the end. One suggestion I would make is to beef up your shackle hangers with Crabtree Shackle hangers. He is here on the forum, I just put his hangers on my CJ and pound for pound they have to be the strongest part on my Jeep!
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Unread 07-30-2011, 10:37 PM   #35
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Thanks for the kind word, mvigo, and the tip about the shackles.

I got the front springs on, today, and they look awesome!! Here's a recap:

Picture #1 - The hardest part on the fronts was grinding the frame rivets, and punching them out, to accommodate the new shackle mounts.

Picture #2 - Front shackle installed using the stock shackles and longer bolts.

Picture #3 - I was mistaken earlier. I did have to do a little grinding on the front pumpkin so that the inside passenger U-bolt would fit.

Picture#4 - A little touchup paint took care of that.

Picture #5 - Back on the wheels...minus shocks, of course.
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Unread 07-30-2011, 11:29 PM   #36
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Nicely done!
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Unread 07-31-2011, 06:46 AM   #37
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Hey 85LaredoCJ7,

I see we have the same winch. I'm not sure how yours mounts, but I had to pull mine to remove the bumper...Good grief, I had forgotten how friggen heavy those old beasts are!!

Anyway, I wanted the readers to know that my old springs sagged noticeably from the weight of the winch. When I lifted it off, the front end came up probably an inch! After the lift, when I reinstalled the winch, the front didn't move at all with the heavy OME springs. Nice!

The other thing I noticed, when taking the Ol' Girl off the jack stands, was how much more flex there is in the system. I have to jack her up a good 8-10" higher in order to get the wheels off the ground.

I'm holding off driving her until I get the shocks on. With any luck they'll arrive, today. I''ll post "after" pics, and a complete parts list, when I'm done.

Lastly, I cannot recommend buying 4WD's version of this lift. I've already shared the screw-up over the shocks and missing parts (shackle sleeves). The final straw came yesterday when I realized they sent me the wrong steering stabilizer shock, too!! The irony is it's the exact opposite problem I had with the regular shocks. I need one that has an eyelet at one end and a post at the other. They sent me one with eyelets at both ends. AAArrrggghhh!!

Fortunately, my Jeep isn't a DD, so the delays are a little easier to swallow.

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Unread 07-31-2011, 07:30 AM   #38
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Oh yes.......I know all about the removal of the winch to get the front bumper off.....and that is one heavy son of a *****! As far as the kit goes, we ordered everything separately because I wanted Bilstein 5100 shocks. We also did the greasable shackle bolts as well. Did you get brake lines?
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No brake lines, only a spacer for the existing rear. There are two more similar spacers in the kit, but the instructions didn't mention where they are to be used.

There's also a small box that says "T-case drop kit". It contains several spacers and new bolts, but again, the instructions say nothing about it.

Did you have to drop your t-case?

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Unread 07-31-2011, 07:41 AM   #40
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I didn't drop my T-case. It's sort of optional. This is one of the reasons why I stayed away from the kits and parted everything myself. I knew there would be stuff I was paying for that would end up not being used.
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Unread 07-31-2011, 08:00 AM   #41
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I am not going to drop my t-case at this point.....unless it will allow me a little bit of clearance between the shaft and trans pan to run a bigger driveshaft in the front......I'm working on that too.
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Unread 07-31-2011, 08:02 AM   #42
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I'll send you a couple pics of another CJ with OME and the flex....you may want longer brake lines on the front.
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Cool.

Another question. My kit supplied (2) 1/4" steel plate shims for the front shackle mounts. You can see them on Pictures #2 and#5 above.

I was wondering what the purpose of lowering the shackle mounts was? Not a big deal, but unfortunately I snapped one of the steering box mounting bolts while installing the driver's side shim. Of course that led to another frustrating drill/punch/tap fix....I hate those!

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Unread 07-31-2011, 08:30 AM   #44
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Cool.

Another question. My kit supplied (2) 1/4" steel plate shims for the front shackle mounts. You can see them on Pictures #2 and#5 above.

I was wondering what the purpose of lowering the shackle mounts was? Not a big deal, but unfortunately I snapped one of the steering box mounting bolts while installing the driver's side shim. Of course that led to another frustrating drill/punch/tap fix....I hate those!

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We aren't at this point on mine yet....but are they to help the new, longer hanger from hitting the front bumper since they are moved at least 1" farther forward?
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Unread 07-31-2011, 08:32 AM   #45
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Oh yeah...now that you have your winch, bumper, etc off and apart, it may not be a bad idea to do a HD steering box mount if that is on your list...I am.
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