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Unread 12-14-2011, 07:31 PM   #271
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Hope it hasn't been addressed before...

Just got an OME YJ to CJ suspension conversion kit for my 1979 CJ7 that's supposed to provide 2.5" - 3.0" of lift. The kit did not include shocks. I was planning on going with OME shocks. My question is with the model number for the shocks. I need heavy duty shocks due to hard top on back and V8 and winch up front. Do I need the N42 (front) and N56 (back) shocks?

Thank you!
I went with N95 all around. Nice soft compliment to the OME HD springs that came with my Quadratec kit. Highly recommended.

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Unread 12-15-2011, 04:03 AM   #272
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Well according to UPS tracking my stuff should be here tomorrow. Going with the OME Heavy kit from QUADRATEC and OME shocks. I also ordered shackles from Crabtree. My son should be here for Christmas next week and we are going to put it all on my Scrambler. Can't wait to see how much this improves the ride and stance. I have been a long time Landcruiser guy and OME is condiered top notch with Landcruiser enthusiasts. I will take some pics and post them up.

STEERING DAMPER - This is the only part I haven't figured out yet. Since OME doesn't make one for a CJ, what do you guys suggest? I hate to mix all that OME Yellow with something else.
I covered the OME steering damper install on post #65. It's a pretty easy modification to make it work.

Hope this helps,

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Unread 12-15-2011, 08:41 AM   #273
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Steering Damper

Matt,

Do you know which OME Steering Damper you ordered by chance? I don't think the fabrication of a mount would be a big deal I just need to know which damper to get.

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Unread 12-15-2011, 08:52 AM   #274
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Do you know which OME Steering Damper you ordered by chance? I don't think the fabrication of a mount would be a big deal I just need to know which damper to get.

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No. Sorry, I misplaced my notes on the model number. I think it may be a YJ damper. All OME steering dampers are 50/50 valving, so you just need one the correct length and diameter. Measure the compressed length of what you have, then give ARB a call. Talk to T.R. Burris.

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Unread 12-17-2011, 02:27 PM   #275
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4 degree shims = perfect 6.0 castor angle

Just for the record:

Alignment complete today (long awaited since I needed to replace the tie rod and steering connect rod - went HD for both)....

OME 2.5 lift (rears all around) = 3.7 degree castor

OME 2.5 lift (rears all around) with Warrior Products 4* shims up front = PERFECT 6.0. (5-7 recommended)

Highly recommend the shims at install -- it's a LOT easier than pulling the spring plates, etc, afterwards....

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Unread 12-17-2011, 03:40 PM   #276
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Treblehook,

I've got the same lift laying in the shop ready to install next week. Why did you feel the need for the shims? I'm going to do the brakes also while I'm at it and I saw your post and was curious.

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Unread 12-17-2011, 03:43 PM   #277
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Matt,

I read your post too about the shims. It seems that there is a difference in the degree you guys used. How did you determine what degree was best?

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Unread 12-17-2011, 03:58 PM   #278
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Matt,

I read your post too about the shims. It seems that there is a difference in the degree you guys used. How did you determine what degree was best?

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I think Treble and I both ended up with 4 degree shims on the front, and almost the same final castor. It's great setup for my use, but I don't do any extreme wheeling. If I did, I'd probably move the spring perches to the correct angle and eliminate the shims.

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Unread 12-17-2011, 05:27 PM   #279
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Well I'm going to install it as it is and go from there. Can't wait to get it all on my Scrambler.
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Unread 12-17-2011, 06:32 PM   #280
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Well I'm going to install it as it is and go from there. Can't wait to get it all on my Scrambler.
If you bought the OME rear springs for all four corners, you will have spin the factory shims on the fronts, at the very least. It won't get you to factory castor spec, but it will be close.

The 4 degree shims will work better.

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Unread 12-17-2011, 06:48 PM   #281
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If you bought the OME rear springs for all four corners, you will have spin the factory shims on the fronts, at the very least. It won't you get you to factory castor spec, but it will be close.

The 4 degree shims will work better.

Matt
I spun the rear OME factory shims (as required) when installing them up front and was at 3.2* of castor. It ran down the road pretty nice and seemed to turn and return to center without any issue...

However...now that the castor is correct I can tell a BIG difference. The steering is more responsive and the return to center is effortless and smooth....

The OME shims on the rear springs are only about 1-2 degrees. They do a great job giving your rear pinion just a little increase in angle to correct for the 2.5 inches of lift...but it's hard to argue with numbers -- it takes more angle in the front to get the correct castor.

To each his own. Good luck with the install!

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Unread 12-19-2011, 07:02 PM   #282
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OME Steering Stabilizer on CJ

I wanted to post up my alternative to Matt's steering stabilizer install. Not that there is anything wrong with his "gate bolt" method -- I just lucked into an alternative. I actually ordered the 5/8 bolt from Ace Hardware Direct....but as luck would have it:

I've been looking for extended sway bar links. On a whim, I stopped by the local Overpriced, Market's Cornered, Truck Suspension, Accessories Store and asked if they had any they may have taken off of a Jeep or truck they worked on....sure enough $10 got me a great set. They are offset (which I am not sure is necessary) and the work really well.

The bonus is that they came with the strut-to-stud shock adapters already on them. These are like $40 on Quadratec. So...I simply removed them from the sway bar links and used one to adapt my OME steering stabilizer.

It worked like a charm. Too easy. Lots of pics below.

I have the other adapter (and a bolt like Matt used) if anyone wants them for their OME stabilizer install. It's Christmas!!

Cheers,
TrebleHook

Oh, and you can see the HD tie-rod and steering connect. Worked out really well and BEEFY!
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Unread 12-19-2011, 07:04 PM   #283
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A few more and some of the 4* shims installed.
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Unread 12-19-2011, 07:32 PM   #285
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Instal commences in the morning. Got my Crabtree shackles today too. I liked the CJ version better and Jim hooked my up with what I needed fot the YJ width combine with the CJ sides.
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