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post #196 of 1052 Old 08-18-2011, 11:25 AM
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Looks great dude.....I am anxious to see how much room you have in the rear. Hey man, unbolt your sway bar from the spring plates just for some true flex....that will be the true test

Are your wheels 15x7 or 15x8 ?


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I thought we already determined you are the guinea pig for finding the max flex of this setup?

My wheels are 15 x 8s. The backspacing appears to be in the middle. I could check for sure, if it's important.

I take it you had a shop do most of your suspension work, hence yours taking so long?

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yep.......thats what happends when you have work, school, bagpipe commitments, 4 year old, wife, no patience, and it is 112 degrees out.....I had considered doing it myself, but just no time.

I picked up my stabilizer yesterday....the closest I could find to a Bilstein...in looks anyway...since they don't make one.


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I found out that most steering dampers are simply a 50/50 valving, so there's very little difference between any of them.

That one looks awfully long, however. I hope you don't run into clearance problems with the front pumpkin.

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Can you tell the length of yours fully extended?

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It's the compressed length you need to worry about, since that's what allows enough travel in the shock when you turn the wheel hard right.

Mine measures about 13" eyelet center to center fully compressed. It comes within 1/4" of hitting my pumpkin when I crank the wheel full right.

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Also, here's a tip for your mechanic that I learned from trial and error:

He should install the fixed end of the shock first, then crank the wheel full left. Fully compress the shock, then install the sliding end bracket.

Hope this helps,

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My Rancho stabilizer is right about 13" fully compressed.....shouldnbe good to go. Have you checked clearance at thebrear corner of your fenders with your new BFGs?

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My Rancho stabilizer is right about 13" fully compressed.....shouldnbe good to go. Have you checked clearance at thebrear corner of your fenders with your new BFGs?
I've ran it over some moderately rough terrain here on my place without any rubbing.

The real test will be when I take it elk hunting in a few weeks, though. The trail into our spot was more than my Tundra wanted last year, mostly due to tight corners and high-centering, so I'm hoping the Jeep has an easier time of it.

Did anything happen on your rig, today?

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No, not really.

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It never really ends with these old CJs, does it?

My 13-year old tires still had good tread, but were showing some age-cracking. They also were never over about 30" tall even though they were labeled as 31s. That was all the excuse I needed to give the Ol' Girl a new set of shoes!!

I chose the BFG T/A KOs in 32"x 11.5 x 15. I think this is the perfect size for my rig with its new suspension. The tires are exactly flush with the outside of the fender flares, and they don't appear "stuffed" into the wheel wells.

I haven't flexed this setup to see if there's any rubbing, but I don't expect there will be much, if any.

Hey 85 Laredo, did you get your new rubber on, yet?

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Thanks for the pictures you posted about the highlift jack set up very nice. What size shackles are those in the front of your jeep? stock shackles are 3" bolt to bolt or 4.50" overall. Im trying to gain an extra 1/2" in the front of my jeep without throwing my caster angle off and im looking for shackle options to buy. thanks
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So, here are a few pics of the Jeep. I couldn"t flex it out all the way because my HD tie rod was coming into contact with the sway bar bracket on the frame. I will have to remove those to get another 2-3" of up travel in the front, which will give me a little more droop in the rear. Other than that, I had to order some front extended shock mounts from Rocky Road to let the front Bilsteins use all of their travel. I will have those this Friday. So in other words, it still has more to go..








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Looks great, Tim!! But, when are you going to really flex that thing?

Post a few pics of the shock mount extensions, when your mechanic gets them on. I'm curious what they are all about.

I'm looking forward to your take on the ride. Have you taken her for a spin, even without front shocks?

When's the new rubber coming?

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Thanks for the pictures you posted about the highlift jack set up very nice. What size shackles are those in the front of your jeep? stock shackles are 3" bolt to bolt or 4.50" overall. Im trying to gain an extra 1/2" in the front of my jeep without throwing my caster angle off and im looking for shackle options to buy. thanks
As stated several times already, I used the stock shackles with longer bolts to accommodate the wider YJ leafs.

FYI, if you use the YJ heavy rear springs on the front of your CJ, be sure to flip the factory shim 180 degrees (the fat end should be towards the front). This should give just enough castor to get within spec. Any additional lift gained by longer shackles will likely require different shims (probably 4-5 degrees).

We'll see when 85Laredo finishes his up. He did the same setup as I, only he used longer shackles. I suspect he's going to need fatter shims.

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Looks great, Tim!! But, when are you going to really flex that thing?

Post a few pics of the shock mount extensions, when your mechanic gets them on. I'm curious what they are all about.

I'm looking forward to your take on the ride. Have you taken her for a spin, even without front shocks?

When's the new rubber coming?

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The longer mounts should be here Friday, and I will put them on maybe Sunday. The OE ones unbolt, and the new ones bolt on where the old ones are. I haven't bought tires yet. I haven't had time to get to the shop. If you want to see what the shock mounts look like, check out Rocky Road Outfitters website. Like I said, it still had room to go.....it just couldn't because of the tie rod hitting the sway bar mount.

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