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post #16 of 34 Old 11-04-2013, 07:56 AM
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You're being too specific in your search. Your local auto parts store will have that filter element and the plastic part it sits in.

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You're being too specific in your search. Your local auto parts store will have that filter element and the plastic part it sits in.
Thank You CSP!

I was thinking (hoping) that might be it ... Yep, making things harder than they need to be ... all too often, that's just how I roll

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On Grammys 86 the PCV is not a T. Just a 90 degree.
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On Grammys 86 the PCV is not a T. Just a 90 degree.
The difference is how they ran the canister purge line. I think AMC used the T-style until about 1983, then they started T'ing the purge off of the vac hose near the rear of the carb.

Either way should work fine.

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The difference is how they ran the canister purge line. I think AMC used the T-style until about 1983, then they started T'ing the purge off of the vac hose near the rear of the carb.

Either way should work fine.

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Thanks again Matt!!

Thanks to you and other here, I should have it put back together and working this weekend. Incidentally, here's a schematic for an '82 CJ that I found somewhere ...

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Don't know if it helps, but I cleaned up the bleed through of a schematic on the other side from the original scanning.

Couple of other questions about stuff; mainly about other components that I'm missing. What if you don't have a Vacuum Reservoir w/ Check Valve, Diverter Valve (bypass), or Vacuum Switching solenoid (SOLE-VAC)? That's connected to the Carburetor SOLE-VAC Throttle Positioner. So, do I need all that connected to help with cold-starts? Then, the Diverter Valve connects to the Air Pump ... yeah, I don't have one of those (Air Pump) either ... so, does any of this really make a difference? I think a good question overall is - what components should CJ owners try to get connected, i.e. which ones really make a difference with cold-starts or whatever, and what components can we ignore and cap off?

I was also going to ask about the CTO, as mine is all connected to itself and/or capped off ...

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... but, I found some good info on sprynet: http://home.sprynet.com/~dale02/cto.htm

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As always, would very much appreciate if anybody can help answer questions above or if you can add to what's there about CTO and importance or lack thereof ...

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One more question getting back to what I was asking initially regarding header and manifold/valve built into it ... Can someone confirm or would you think this is a valve for the Pulse Air System?

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You're being too specific in your search. Your local auto parts store will have that filter element and the plastic part it sits in.
Hey CSP,

Well, one down, several more auto parts chains to go. Tried Advance Auto, but they don't have it and don't show it in their system. I looked around in their generic parts section dealing with PCV stuff, but didn't find anything there either. In an effort to minimize my search, can I ask you what chain would you expect would have it?

Thank you as always for taking the time to help!!


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Let me look and see what I can find. If I'm not successful I think I have a couple of those and I could just send you one.
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Let me look and see what I can find. If I'm not successful I think I have a couple of those and I could just send you one.
Hey CSP,

I'm speechless - Thank You!! That would be just awesome!! I will of course send you some $$ if you wind up deciding you can send one ...

Thank You very, very much again!!


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Back to the subject of headers with the factory air-cleaner ... not sure if this will work with the headers that I bought some 15 years ago, but I found this finally ...

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Found it here: http://www.hedman.com/?site=1&dt=108&d=29

Of course that's not a picture of headers in use on a Jeep, but hopefully it's a generic solution. Anybody used this kit and if so, did you notice a difference in warm-up time?

Then again, their kit is like $36, and there's not much to it. I should be able to fab something similar for allot less ...

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Ok, so i will soon be installing a oem air filter in the near future, but for now the PCV valve on the valve cover (close to the fire wall) is connected to a hose that runs down to the frame and is just open to atmosphere, no filter or anything. I know this is not ok but how does this impact the vacuum system over all and performance. Should I run it to some other place?
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Hooker Headers used to make a bolt-on kit that had basically a little heat stove that bolted around one of the header tubes with an outlet that you'd attach to the air cleaner snorkel. I just did a quick search but came up empty. You might give Summit a call and see if the thing is still available.


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Back to the subject of headers with the factory air-cleaner ... not sure if this will work with the headers that I bought some 15 years ago, but I found this finally ...



Found it here: http://www.hedman.com/?site=1&dt=108&d=29

Of course that's not a picture of headers in use on a Jeep, but hopefully it's a generic solution. Anybody used this kit and if so, did you notice a difference in warm-up time?

Then again, their kit is like $36, and there's not much to it. I should be able to fab something similar for allot less ...

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That's the one I was talking about. I could've sworn it was Hooker though


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Ok, so i will soon be installing a oem air filter in the near future, but for now the PCV valve on the valve cover (close to the fire wall) is connected to a hose that runs down to the frame and is just open to atmosphere, no filter or anything. I know this is not ok but how does this impact the vacuum system over all and performance. Should I run it to some other place?
Hey Jason,

I think leaving the PCV valve on the valve cover open, might disable the Air Door and/or Heat Door of the snorkel on the air cleaner. Though I am not certain ... mine are not working properly, but I actually have not connected the PCV line on my rig as I don't have the filter or that fitting. I'm not sure if mine not working was the cause or ... if they just are just broke; need to do some more troubleshooting myself.

Sorry for the late reply ...


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One more question getting back to what I was asking initially regarding header and manifold/valve built into it ... Can someone confirm or would you think this is a valve for the Pulse Air System?

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Thank you as always -
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This goes to an A.I.R. Pump you are missing.

Actually it goes to a Check valve then to the air pump.

Here is an 82 non computer (yes Cal. had computers in 82) vacuum diagram right off the grill
This is missing any Air or heat doors on the Air cleaner



THis is probably better for you.
But 82 had an Idle module for a solvac so this might be closer.
Just some little things are different from this:
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John,

Thank you very, very much for clearing that up!! I had no idea what to do with that one.

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