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Unread 10-07-2009, 09:35 PM   #1
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NP 435 swap

So who has put a 435 behind a AMC motor...304,360 etc...
I picked up a 435 that was overhauled by novak with a dana 20 adapter. It's going behind a 304 in my 74 cj5. I know I need a T176 bellhousing and pilot bushing from novak....but what clutch should I use. Will my T15 clutch work? Should I go with a centerforce set up for a ford tranny, like a T18?

I'm thinking the 435 and 3:15 in teh dana 20 will put me around 90:1, which will be almost like driving and automatic

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Unread 10-08-2009, 09:27 AM   #2
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Your T15 clutch will not work as it's for a 1-1/8" 10 spline input shaft. The NP435 is a 1-1/16", 10 spline. You can use a clutch disc from any '76-79 CJ with either the T150 or T18. You'll also need a different clutch fork to go with the T150/T176 bellhousing. The '75 and older clutch forks are not compatible with the '76 and up bellhousings or throwout bearings.
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Unread 10-08-2009, 09:38 AM   #3
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Perfect! Exactly what info I was hoping for.
I have a T176 bellhousing and the trans, so it looks like I just need to get a clutch, throw out bearing and fork for the T176 or T150 now.
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Unread 10-08-2009, 02:36 PM   #4
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So who has put a 435 behind a AMC motor...304,360 etc...
I picked up a 435 that was overhauled by novak with a dana 20 adapter. It's going behind a 304 in my 74 cj5. I know I need a T176 bellhousing and pilot bushing from novak....but what clutch should I use. Will my T15 clutch work? Should I go with a centerforce set up for a ford tranny, like a T18?

I'm thinking the 435 and 3:15 in teh dana 20 will put me around 90:1, which will be almost like driving and automatic
I plan on doing the same. Let me know how it works out for you. I picked up a 435 but still want to rebuild it first.
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Just keep in mind: things are never as bad as they seem. These are jeeps, built by man and any problems you come across can be solved by man - even you! Best of luck.
Looking for axles 4.10's or higher
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Unread 10-08-2009, 03:45 PM   #5
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You guys probably already know this....The NP435 IS NOT a speed shifting tranny. Your main gain over other 3/4 speeds (ie T-150, T-176, T-4, SR4, etc) is a granny first gear (6.69 to 1). Otherwise you/I use it as a three speed for daily driving.

It's a very easy tranny to rebuild, Novak Adapters The New Process 435 Transmission - Novak Conversions has fantastic knowledge/parts for that task. I have a few pics I can post if you would like.

Later, T.J.
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Unread 10-10-2009, 12:07 AM   #6
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You guys probably already know this....The NP435 IS NOT a speed shifting tranny. Your main gain over other 3/4 speeds (ie T-150, T-176, T-4, SR4, etc) is a granny first gear (6.69 to 1). Otherwise you/I use it as a three speed for daily driving.

It's a very easy tranny to rebuild, Novak Adapters The New Process 435 Transmission - Novak Conversions has fantastic knowledge/parts for that task. I have a few pics I can post if you would like.

Later, T.J.
Would love the pictures the more info the better. Would like to have all my ducts lined up before I start shooting.
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Just keep in mind: things are never as bad as they seem. These are jeeps, built by man and any problems you come across can be solved by man - even you! Best of luck.
Looking for axles 4.10's or higher
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Unread 10-10-2009, 04:37 PM   #7
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Here goes some. My work area was a controlled mess, but interestingly enough everything stayed clean.

The input shaft & retainer


Countershaft gears, associated bearings, and synchros


Tail shaft retainer


Cover and shifter forks (Note: If you will be using first gear in a pulling way - ie up steep grades/bumpy hillsides/rocky terrain - notch the first gear detent/slot to help hold it in gear)


Inside case


Novak kit part 1 - gaskets, bearings, etc


Novak kit part 2 Dana 300 adapter & mainshaft


Shaft installed


Front view


Installed on m CJ


Later, T.J.
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Unread 01-16-2010, 01:52 PM   #8
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NP 435 to 4.2 bellhousing

I am ready to install my NP435 but the bellhousing does not line up - is this a common issue and what is the solution
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Unread 01-16-2010, 03:10 PM   #9
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What tranny bellhousing do you have? Since I had a T-150 tranny, the Ford NP435 mounted right up to it.

Later, T.J.
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Unread 01-17-2010, 10:46 AM   #10
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NP435 to 238 bellhousing

I have a T-5 bellhouosing which I have found out is different than the T150 for the the year (85) I have. So now I am on the hunt for a T150 jeep bellhousing what a bummer I was so looking forward to getting this thing to run, (and move for the 1st time since I have owned it) yesterday.

I am now searching all the normal used places I know.

Thanks for your repy
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Unread 01-18-2010, 09:16 AM   #11
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You can drill the necessary holes in the T5 bellhousing and make it line up.
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Unread 01-18-2010, 09:10 PM   #12
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Bellhousing

found a t150 bellhousing that works great - thanks for all your help

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