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Unread 08-09-2012, 08:15 AM   #1
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Novak Adjustable Release Bearing

I've got a sb350 mated to an sm465. The tranny didn't come with the motor but I found the right bellhousing. I converted it to a Novak hydraulic clutch slave. I installed the clutch pack appropriate for the year motor including the release bearing. Come to find out the bearing was too short. I re-measured the length and installed a longer bearing. Turns out it was too long and the clutch was disengaged. The third bearing from NAPA didn't come with a carrier.

To make a long story longer the availability of bearings is now very limited. Novak offers an adjustable release bearing. Has anyone had the same issues? Has anyone used the Novak adjustable bearing? Any and all input is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Unread 08-09-2012, 11:54 AM   #2
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Unread 08-10-2012, 06:20 AM   #3
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I am using that TO bearing in my CJ5 LS swap. After a month of running it I am dropping the tranny to see why I am having disengagement issues. It could have been installer (me) error or the adjustment part may have failed, I will update when I get in there. I did have the same issue as you with the throwout not being long enough. Summit sells an adjustable one by McCleod Racing #16515 that I may try if thats the issue.
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Unread 08-10-2012, 06:42 AM   #4
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Thanks df, I was beginning to think I was the only person out here that couldn't figure this out. I'd be real interested to hear what the "new" issue is. It's maddening to have to keep pulling stuff apart.
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Unread 08-10-2012, 07:02 PM   #5
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links to pictures of my TO bearing

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...g?t=1344642282

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...g?t=1344642384

http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w...g?t=1344642282

I dont know how to imbed them sorry.

I dont know if I installed it wrong, but it worked trouble free for a while, and I'll admit it broke when I was driving it like it was a drag car, which it kinda feels like
It started off with the rear flange in the fork clips, then when I just pulled it, the clips were holding that middle/forward flange like it bound up while I was stomping on it and the fork bent the flange. I will call Novak on this one and see if they have experienced this before. What a PITA for a TOB.
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Unread 08-10-2012, 07:41 PM   #6
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How do you secure the bearing once the length is determined? I'd be interested in Novak's reply.
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Unread 08-10-2012, 08:59 PM   #7
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There are two metal dowels that line up with holes through the assembly and then you drive them through once the length is established. I really can't wait to hear what they say either, even if its "hey idiot" I just don't want to have to pull the trans and tcase for a 3rd time anytime too soon!
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Unread 08-15-2012, 09:15 PM   #8
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Well not much to update with Novak, I emailed and called-left message. No response from email of phone call. That is disappointing considering I spent a bunch of money with them. So here is what I am going with this time... RAM clutches part # 495, its for 1 1/8 input shaft like my T176 not sure about the sm465. It is 1.9" long and I was around 1.8x" so I am going to get an adjustable ball pivot as well. I hope you figure yours out. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RAM-495/
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Unread 08-15-2012, 10:15 PM   #9
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Call them back at hit extension 20. That's Eric, the owner. It may take a day or two to get back to ya but he's real decent.

My new one came today but I'm still on the DL from hernia surgery. Hopefully soon.

Good luck and keep us posted.

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Unread 08-16-2012, 08:21 AM   #10
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I appreciate the extension. Rest up and let me know how that TOB works for you. I am doing a complete rebuild of my T177, so it will be a while before I get the jeep totally back together.
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Unread 08-17-2012, 01:25 PM   #11
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To update, Eric from Novak called me today and he is sending me a new TOB so all is good, hopefully that was just a fluke and not something I did wrong.
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Unread 08-17-2012, 02:38 PM   #12
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At least they stood behind the product. I hope it was either something you did wrong or a defect in 'that' TOB. I say that cause I don't want the same thing to happen to me. Either way I'm glad you got some resolution. I knew they'd stand behind the product, that's why I stick with them. Good luck and keep us posted.

BTW, did you measure the distance from the front of the carrier to the front of the bearing face, once it was adjusted?

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I am haveing the same problem Have a 1974 cj5 with an tpi out of a vette and sm465 trans an a dana 300.Mine is doing the same thing.Please let us know if all comes out ok I am thinking of use the novak throwout bearing also.
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Unread 10-13-2013, 01:15 PM   #14
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I am haveing the same problem Have a 1974 cj5 with an tpi out of a vette and sm465 trans an a dana 300.Mine is doing the same thing.Please let us know if all comes out ok I am thinking of use the novak throwout bearing also.
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I put an SM465 behind a 258 earlier this year on a 1982 CJ7.

Used the adjustable throwout bearing from Novak with no issues, it worked great.

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Unread 10-13-2013, 03:36 PM   #15
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Thanks I am going to give it a try.thanks for the help
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