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post #1 of 17 Old 08-20-2013, 05:21 PM Thread Starter
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Novak or AA?? Opinions??

After stretching out another chain on my Q-trac, I finally decided it's time to bite the bullet and get rid of it for a proper gear driven case.
After much research, it turns out my plan of using a Commando factory TH400 -D20, mixed with a D18 to end up with an offset transfer case idea is just a pipe dream.
I know where there are a few Dana 18's I can get for fairly cheap. Small bore 1 1/8" shaft.

Looking at the adapters from Novak and Advance, they are more than a few dollars different in price. Anybody have an opinion on why Novak is so much more? Dealings with either company, good or bad??


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Novak, this is not the place to do the cheap.
Their CS is very good also.
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this is not the place to do the cheap.
No doubt on that.
I was leaning towards them, but never used parts from either. Just hoping to justify the added cost.

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The Novak products I have used. Fit beautifully.
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Ditto on the Novak suggestion. Personally I would look at a Dana300 and probably some wide trac axles too (you need to change to a centered rear anyway). As long as you're going to dump a ton of cash, you may as well get the most for the money.
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If the OP wants to spend the $$$$. Currie Ford 9" diffs will work well.
At least they have for me, for over 22 years.
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I want to stick with the offset axle that I have. No reason the change it, plenty of reasons to keep it. Not wanting to dump a bunch of cash I don't need to being one of them.

BJ's off-road actually has Novak kits for about $100 less than Novak does. Go figure.....

http://www.bjsoffroad.com/prod-807.htm

https://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/...se/kit_124.htm

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I want to stick with the offset axle that I have. No reason the change it, plenty of reasons to keep it. Not wanting to dump a bunch of cash I don't need to being one of them.

BJ's off-road actually has Novak kits for about $100 less than Novak does. Go figure.....

http://www.bjsoffroad.com/prod-807.htm

https://www.novak-adapt.com/catalog/...se/kit_124.htm

Never seen a center output TC feed an offset rear end. Look forward to seeing how it comes out.
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Never seen a center output TC feed an offset rear end. Look forward to seeing how it comes out.
Not using a center output. Daņa 18's are off set.

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Okay, now I get it. Thought you had given up on an offset TC...

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offset transfer case idea is just a pipe dream.
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Okay, now I get it. Thought you had given up on an offset TC...
Havent given up on the offset, Just my original plan. i know where i can pick up a factory th400/d20 combo and a d18 pretty cheap.
My hope was to take the guts from the 18, put them into the 20, and use that with the lower low range aand offset.
Found out it Just wouldn't work like i hoped it would though.

Current plan is to Just adapt the small bore 18 on.

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i just got an engine swap kit and i chose Novak. i've used AA in the past for my saturn od, but went with Novak as i just liked the looks of their kit better. the customer service has been excellent from both of them.

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I have an AA SM420-to-D20 adapter and it is the second one on there. The PO did the swap and he had money coming out his ears it seems. He put in a AA adaptor to fit up the two then decided (or someone talked him into) a T18-to-D20, well he lost the low end and swapped the 420 back in, this time it would slip out out of gear and the mechanic told him it was the adaptor failing (??).

Thats all I have to say about that

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post #15 of 17 Old 08-22-2013, 10:29 PM
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Tech help and customer service is outstanding with both companies, but I have only purchased from Novak. Novak strongly believes in their product, and they charge more. I like that confidence.

FYI- WT axles are readily available if you change your mind on the Tcase. I picked up a front and rear for $100 each and stuck them under the 5. No mods necessary for mounting.

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