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post #1 of 14 Old 10-03-2008, 06:28 PM Thread Starter
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non-computer controlled Carter BBD 2 barrel carburetor, Vacuum port identification

I need a little help with identifying and connecting the vacuum ports my non-computer controlled Carter BBD 2 barrel carburetor.

The jeep is an 85, stock engine, nuttered, emissions removed, abandoned wires removed, and the above mentioned carburetor.

I am not familiar with a few of the vacuum ports and cannot find the appropriate resources to help me identify them or more importantly what to do with them. Maybe you guys can help. I cannot post pictures so I will provide links to the pictures.

The ports are labeled with numbers in the pictures.

http://flickr.com/photos/7605628@N05/

This is what I came up with so far:

Port 1: Capped
Port 2: To carburetor bowl vent on evaporation canister
Port 3: Connects to distributor, EGR, CTO port, s (2),
Port 4: Connects to Evaporation canister purge can purge, PCV air out
Port 5: ?
Port 6: Connects to TAC system
Port7: Capped (this is not on most carbs that I have seen)
Unlabeled Port: The unlabeled port connects to the choke diaphragm as already shown.

Let me know if these are incorrect or a more appropriate way to connect the carburetor.


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post #2 of 14 Old 10-04-2008, 11:56 AM
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I need a little help with identifying and connecting the vacuum ports my non-computer controlled Carter BBD 2 barrel carburetor.

The jeep is an 85, stock engine, nuttered, emissions removed, abandoned wires removed, and the above mentioned carburetor.

I am not familiar with a few of the vacuum ports and cannot find the appropriate resources to help me identify them or more importantly what to do with them. Maybe you guys can help. I cannot post pictures so I will provide links to the pictures.

The ports are labeled with numbers in the pictures.

http://flickr.com/photos/7605628@N05/

This is what I came up with so far:
Port 1: Capped
OK capped, but it is a spark ported port that can be and is on some used to feed the CTO.

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Port 2: To carburetor bowl vent on evaporation canister
Correct
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Port 3: Connects to distributor, EGR, CTO port, s (2),
Well.. It 'can' run all those or you can feed the CTO and EGR from the front corner one and just use the side one for the distributor. I would verify the front corner one on yours is ported like mine and only has vacuum at speed, not at idle.

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Port 4: Connects to Evaporation canister purge can purge, PCV air out
Correct.

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Port 5: ?
Blocked, it is for some flavor of emissions part, the 85 didn't have this port.

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Port 6: Connects to TAC system
Correct

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Port7: Capped (this is not on most carbs that I have seen)
Correct, it is the purge for one flavor of gas tank vent I believe.

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Unlabeled Port: The unlabeled port connects to the choke diaphragm as already shown.

Let me know if these are incorrect or a more appropriate way to connect the carburetor.
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Bump for some good info...
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Installing a new charcoal canister today. Can anyone note the difference, if any, in using port #1 to feed the CTO /purge signal thereby allowing the advance to have a dedicated ported source at port #3.

Mike's posts I've found in searches seem to be a little unclear on the success of using this port for the CTO. I was just going to put a vacuum gauge on both to see what the difference is. If they have similar signal I assume they are interchangeable.

I'm trying to avoid T-ing into the dizzy advance line.

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Thanks friends ...
it really helps, but where is it go to?(the tee)

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The port identification in that picture is useful but the plumbing (hoses) is not all correct. There should be two vent hoses from the carter BBD that connect with a T and then run to the charcoal canister. That picture does not show them.

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This my help if you dont know what the origional setup looked like.

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The port identification in that picture is useful but the plumbing (hoses) is not all correct. There should be two vent hoses from the carter BBD that connect with a T and then run to the charcoal canister. That picture does not show them.
I think all of the hoses are crrect but as you see the hose joined to the T is not clear.(in the left)


Hose A is going to carburetor bowl vent on evaporation canister and the Carter BBD 2 barrel doesnt have B valve.

I think the T connects port 2 and thsi aprt :

to canister...
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I think all of the hoses are crrect but as you see the hose joined to the T is not clear.(in the left)


Hose A is going to carburetor bowl vent on evaporation canister and the Carter BBD 2 barrel doesnt have B valve.

I think the T connects port 2 and thsi aprt :

to canister...
No, the two vents from the carter BBD (A&B) go direct to the charcoal canister (the BBD DOES have the B fitting/vent). It is shown in pink on the diagram posted above. They do not go to the valve cover/PCV. The yellow oval should connect to the air cleaner/breather filter.

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Thanks ,but still I'm sure that BBD 2 barrel doesn't have the B fitting.
this is mine:
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Thanks ,but still I'm sure that BBD 2 barrel doesn't have the B fitting.
this is mine:
There are variations of the BBD. That is unlike any US Jeep/CJ BBD I have seen. All BBD's I've seen here in the states have 2 breather ports. Possibly it is a European variation you have? Or maybe a BBD from another Dodge or AMC vehicle? I see you are in the middle east. Where did your Jeep come from. Regardless, that vent goes straight to the charcoal canister. No need to T to the valve cover. It is a vent, not a vacuum port.

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Also, if you fill out your profile it would help people help you. Tell us what year, model, etc your jeep is.

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Thank you dear friend ...

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