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Unread 01-11-2010, 05:33 PM   #16
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back out of this thread into the CJ technical forum and it is on the top right just above the post.

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Unread 01-11-2010, 06:42 PM   #17
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ok guys here is a new question, i want to completely redo the lift on this jeep,, and i still want or would liek to ahve the same amount of lift and clearance. what is the best way to go b/c the biggest sus lift i can find is 4 inches
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Unread 01-11-2010, 06:50 PM   #18
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also i am almost 100 percent sure the wheelbase has been extended to a cj7, so how would i determin this so i could get the right lift if i did order one?. it looks like a pacer was added to the back of the frame were the leafs mount on, it is dark but a close measurement shows about 95-96 inches fron center of hub to center of hub

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Unread 01-11-2010, 07:31 PM   #19
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Holy Lack-of-Welders, Batman!!!

Ok, that just looks scary. Not ex-wife-scary, but at least day-time-tv scary. I'm not gonna say that welding it would make it safe and kosher, but I gotta believe that NOT welding that is way worse. Having your entire rear end, suspension and axel, held on with four (or is it eight, it's hard to tell in the pic, not that it matters) grade 5 (if you're lucky, they kinda look like 2's) bolts is a pretty good recipe for disaster. Even if you're gonna replace it all with a well-engineered solution, I would spend 20 minutes having that welded for the meantime, that or don't drive it.
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Unread 01-11-2010, 07:35 PM   #20
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Lol yeah not driving it yet just a short trip b4 I bought it
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Unread 01-11-2010, 07:48 PM   #21
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also i am almost 100 percent sure the wheelbase has been extended to a cj7, so how would i determin this so i could get the right lift if i did order one?. it looks like a pacer was added to the back of the frame were the leafs mount on, it is dark but a close measurement shows about 95-96 inches fron center of hub to center of hub

Oh damn... Thats interesting
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Unread 01-12-2010, 06:04 AM   #22
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Oh damn... Thats interesting
Oh damn... Thats scary.
How good of a deal did you get?
Don't worry, theres alot of smart people on here that will help.
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Unread 01-12-2010, 06:19 AM   #23
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In regards to your lift question, the first thing that I would think needs to be done is to determine if it still on CJ springs. They may have been swapped to something else. This doens't mean that you can't go back to stock, but it may mean more work and fabbing.


As far as getting the height you want, going spring over axle gives you around 4 to 5 inches of lift with stock springs. If you put 4" lift springs over the axle you would be up there.

From looking at your pictures you have plenty of lift to clear the tires you are running now. You may be able to simply remove the blocks, and clean up the PO's installation and be fine with what you have but it is hard to tell from looking at pictures.

I would also check out that green hose peeking out from under the jeep in the back and make sure that it is not an open line from the fuel tank.
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Unread 01-12-2010, 06:26 AM   #24
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def. get some welding done
check out the steering issues...thats gonna need some work for sure.
youre not gonna find a sus lift that high w/o leaving it SOA. this guy went to extremes with those blocks and 'compensated' for everything else around the lift.

looks like the rig as a whole is ok but you need to step back, do some forum searching, and find fixes for your weak points and saftey issues. with some time, sweat, and of course $$$, you'll be ok. should be a fun project to learn with!
take each area of the rig at a time and complete a project at a time. you're gonna run into other issues as you go, just make a list and tackle them as you can!
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Unread 01-12-2010, 06:28 AM   #25
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I would also check out that green hose peeking out from under the jeep in the back and make sure that it is not an open line from the fuel tank.
i'd be willing to bet, that's the PO's snorkel!

P.S. when you get a chance to figure out what ya got, fill out your profile for future reference of other JF users.
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Unread 01-12-2010, 06:51 AM   #26
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Thanks guys. Yeah I have no clue about the springs tho. How would I go about determining if they are still cj springs? Also I will stay with soa bc I do understand the lift part of that lol. I guess to start I just need to find out how to determin the prongs and go from there. And I did some looking to c y some people r saying not to use liftblocks on the front leafs but to b honest I am really not finding n e thing. Can some one help with that question? Thank you guys so so soooo much for the help so far and to come...
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Unread 01-12-2010, 07:58 AM   #27
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Hey can n e one tell me if I can use Tj springs on this. I can get a Tj suspension lift in 8 inches and added to the soa it will be approv what I have now. Then I can take off the body lift. Also I will have to redo the spring perches but I have to redo them n e ways?
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Unread 01-12-2010, 08:37 AM   #28
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Hey can n e one tell me if I can use Tj springs on this. I can get a Tj suspension lift in 8 inches and added to the soa it will be approv what I have now. Then I can take off the body lift. Also I will have to redo the spring perches but I have to redo them n e ways?
TJ suspensions use Coil spring, not leaf. Lots of fabrication... engineering... I think it would be cool to do. If you go that route, you may consider coil overs.
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Unread 01-12-2010, 09:29 AM   #29
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i am sorry i hit the wrong button i ment YJ.
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Unread 01-12-2010, 09:30 AM   #30
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sorry use a yj lift kit 6 inches, 5.5 spring perches for 5.5 inches (soa) then use 1-1/4 shackles for a total of 12.75 of lift. without any bodu lift will be almost what i have now, only correct lol.. I know i will have to use the yj perches. Are the yj leafs the same width as the cj?
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