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Unread 06-30-2013, 12:54 AM   #1
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New CJ5 owner and new to the site. I NEED HELP what i have thank you

I bought a CJ5 SO I CAN TOW IT BEHIND MY M35A2 pic shown as well at bottom . it runs its a 6cylinder

but i cant figure what engine I have , cause i need a new exhaust manifold it busted at the pipe.

I was given two sets of everything full set of lockers and full set of limited slip diffs and shocks , all thees parts i can add but not sure what to add do want full lockers ? or limited slip .

I have land rover rock crawler and deuce so now i added a old jeep as I loved the tiny design of them .

if this site lets me post ill post some pics so you can maybe determine what i have for carb and exhaust manifold. thank you all for any help i can get
I know its 3 speed as well









This link Below is my M35A2 m109a3 Tok Center

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Unread 06-30-2013, 06:46 AM   #2
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Looks like a later 231 Buick V6. I can't tell what your carb is, get a pic with the air cleaner off.
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Unread 06-30-2013, 07:39 AM   #3
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It could be a 231, but I have a 225 and it looks very similar to your motor. My 225 had a sticker on the passenger side valve cover that said dauntless 225, I don't see that on yours. I think on the passenger side of the block there are numbers that you could help you identify it. The 225 and 231 are very similar and are both bulletproof motors. By the way, buick makes these motors.
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Unread 07-01-2013, 06:39 PM   #4
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Ok I will try to get to that and post it thank you for that advice you have given me so far I will take the air cleaner off and see shes a beast but i love it . i am trying to figure out what exhaust manifold is there

its not like my deuce lol at least parts are lighter lol
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Unread 07-02-2013, 01:25 AM   #5
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here are the other pictures you needed ?








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Unread 07-02-2013, 01:55 AM   #6
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It could be a 231, but I have a 225 and it looks very similar to your motor. My 225 had a sticker on the passenger side valve cover that said dauntless 225, I don't see that on yours. I think on the passenger side of the block there are numbers that you could help you identify it. The 225 and 231 are very similar and are both bulletproof motors. By the way, buick makes these motors.
I cant find any thing on the valve covers not sure still

BUT i think my engine is this the exhaust manifolds match from a 1970 Jeep
CJ5 Dauntless 225 V6 engine. I believe this is what it could be . with all the advice i have could i be right ?

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Unread 07-02-2013, 05:30 AM   #7
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You've got a Holley 2v carb there. Your exhaust manifold is different from the stock ones on my '70.
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Unread 07-02-2013, 06:17 AM   #8
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I wish I could post a picture of my 225 but it won't let me.

The only difference between that motor and mine is the drivers side manifold on my 225 comes out towards the grill and then goes back. If you google it you should find pictures.

I had a hard time finding the numbers on my engine too but they are there.

Also not surprised you didn't find anything on the valve cover, it was just a sticker. I was surprised that my 225 still had it because of how long it sat before I got it.

Good luck, we will get that motor identified eventually!
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Unread 07-02-2013, 09:41 PM   #9
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Thanks

So now a new problem i can not find a vin at all I am not sure what now to do

if i cant license it ill part it out then ill have no choice. Is there a serial on the engine that matches the tittle vin ? thanks

Also till i can identify the engine i cant find any parts for it. sad day
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Unread 07-19-2013, 02:43 AM   #10
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Has anyone been able to identify the engine ? I cant find a new exhaust manifold without knowing. thanks



got tired of trying to find a manifold my buddy and i decided to make one its not beauty but its fully functional
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Unread 07-19-2013, 04:16 AM   #11
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You might try the guys at www.earlycj5.com They are more dedicated to this year jeep.

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Unread 07-19-2013, 06:23 AM   #12
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The early CJ site would definitely be good for this model. FYI - I think they have had some issues with their server and getting spammed in the past, so if you register an account, try NOT to use a bulk free email address like hotmail.com - it will block your registration.

My 2 cents is that it looks a lot like my 225 Dauntless - but then I don't know the 231 at all so I have nothing to compare to.

My 4 cents comment as you mentioned towing it - I see you have the rig on a full trailer which is great considering it looks like you have a Ross Cam and Level steering. It is not a good idea to flat tow the Ross steering system - extreme wear will occur rapidly and the system is already iffy to begin with. As long as you are on the trailer your are great.
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Unread 07-20-2013, 07:15 AM   #13
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The early CJ site would definitely be good for this model. FYI - I think they have had some issues with their server and getting spammed in the past, so if you register an account, try NOT to use a bulk free email address like hotmail.com - it will block your registration.

My 2 cents is that it looks a lot like my 225 Dauntless - but then I don't know the 231 at all so I have nothing to compare to.

My 4 cents comment as you mentioned towing it - I see you have the rig on a full trailer which is great considering it looks like you have a Ross Cam and Level steering. It is not a good idea to flat tow the Ross steering system - extreme wear will occur rapidly and the system is already iffy to begin with. As long as you are on the trailer your are great.

A couple of things-
I've flat towed my '70 literally thousands of miles through the Colorado mountains, with no damageto the steering system.

Also, the Jeep pictured above doesn't have a Ross steering system. The driver's side exhaust manifold is a rear dump, which exits right where the stock steering box is. The stock manifold dumps to the front to clear the steering box. It's probably been converted to a front mounted Saginaw steering box (common swap).
Looking a little more at those engine pics, I'm thinking it's a mid 70's 231.
The valce covers are wrong for a 225, the intake has provision for an EGR valve, and that passenger side manifold has the heat tube for a hot air automatic choke.

X2 on joining earlycj5.net
The knowledge base for early Jeeps is great...and we're pretty nice guys!
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Unread 07-21-2013, 03:07 PM   #14
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Thanks for this info :)

thank all who is helping me figure this out

I have to go up to Osp for a vin check there is no vin on it so i am unsure

everything is original I hope they had the 6 cyl engine in them Cause you were saying a few things are changed out what exhaust would i need to replace the cracked on i have ?


Thanks i signed up there as well the link you told me of .

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Unread 07-21-2013, 09:57 PM   #15
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Go to the parts store look at manifold gaskets, I am not sure but they may be a different bolt pattern between the 225 and 231
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