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post #46 of 278 Old 02-16-2011, 01:51 PM
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I'm going to run 35's because that is what I already have.

So please explain how this works. The shorter the wheel base the smaller the tire you can run? That's the way it seems it should work to me, but my logic could be all wrong.
the shorter the wheelbase (or larger the tire), the taller "break-over angle" you have (basically, more belly clearance)

"Breakover angle" means the supplement of the largest angle, in the plan side view of an automobile, that can be formed by two lines tangent to the front and rear static loaded radii arcs and intersecting at a point on the underside of the automobile.


http://www.agileruggedterrainvehicles.com/BreakoverangleCalculator.html



though if you've ever seen the movie "RV", (I am a visual learner) it has an easier tutorial


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post #47 of 278 Old 02-16-2011, 01:53 PM
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Eric I like the pickup look. That'd look nice with a flatbed on it too. You're gonna have plenty of room on the back for whatever tire size you want.
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post #48 of 278 Old 02-16-2011, 02:03 PM Thread Starter
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Eric I like the pickup look. That'd look nice with a flatbed on it too. You're gonna have plenty of room on the back for whatever tire size you want.
Thanks Jim, I am starting off with D44's, so I don't want to go any bigger than 35's.

It might be intersting to make a fiberglass bed just to keep things light, but that would probably cause my weight distribution to be way off. No way I'm going to move the engine back. The bed will be the last thing, so I'll have plenty of time to see what developes.

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The pickup bed in your picture looks to be a M416 trailer bed. They're starting to get pricy. You might be able to find one that's been cut up on the cheap, however. Sometimes the rear panel has been removed to make them a little more user friendly.
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The pickup bed in your picture looks to be a M416 trailer bed. They're starting to get pricy. You might be able to find one that's been cut up on the cheap, however. Sometimes the rear panel has been removed to make them a little more user friendly.
Nice to know info, thanks! I'll have to check into that. I was thinking of something home made, but would rather not. Remember the gaucho build by JScherb?

'85 CJ7, BDS 4" lift, 1" Body lift, 33x12.5, Shrockworks Sliders, 304 V8 with RV cam., T-176, D300, Dana 30, AMC 20.
1986 CJ10-A SD-33 Diesel/727/np208
1971 800B with 345/T-19
06' TJ Rubicon, 4" R.C. springs, BFG/AT 35s M.C. 6" fenders, rockers and surrounds, Currie front & rear adj. tracbars, tattons DC rear shaft, adj. upper - lower CA's. Bilstein 5100's
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Yes, this would work nicely...
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'85 CJ7, BDS 4" lift, 1" Body lift, 33x12.5, Shrockworks Sliders, 304 V8 with RV cam., T-176, D300, Dana 30, AMC 20.
1986 CJ10-A SD-33 Diesel/727/np208
1971 800B with 345/T-19
06' TJ Rubicon, 4" R.C. springs, BFG/AT 35s M.C. 6" fenders, rockers and surrounds, Currie front & rear adj. tracbars, tattons DC rear shaft, adj. upper - lower CA's. Bilstein 5100's
YJ Buggy Build Current project. Stroker/FI ?
1990 MJ Comanche 4.0L AX15/np231
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For titling the CJ10-A, have you checked about doing it the way custom built and kit car vehicles are titled? I know you will have to have it inspected to make sure it meets all the laws in your area but there has to be a way to get it titled for street use.

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post #53 of 278 Old 02-17-2011, 06:51 AM Thread Starter
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For titling the CJ10-A, have you checked about doing it the way custom built and kit car vehicles are titled? I know you will have to have it inspected to make sure it meets all the laws in your area but there has to be a way to get it titled for street use.
Since the CJ10 is based on a Wagoneer frame, I called the DMV and asked them the following question:

I have an 86 CJ10 with title, and an 86 WGrand Wagoneer with title. I want to take the CJ10 cab and put it on my Wagoneer frame. Should it then be titled as a CJ10 or a Wagoneer?

They said they would check with the district office and call me back.

I'm sure hoping they say title it as the frame.

Either way, I'll be driving the only Grand Wagoneer pickup in the US...

'85 CJ7, BDS 4" lift, 1" Body lift, 33x12.5, Shrockworks Sliders, 304 V8 with RV cam., T-176, D300, Dana 30, AMC 20.
1986 CJ10-A SD-33 Diesel/727/np208
1971 800B with 345/T-19
06' TJ Rubicon, 4" R.C. springs, BFG/AT 35s M.C. 6" fenders, rockers and surrounds, Currie front & rear adj. tracbars, tattons DC rear shaft, adj. upper - lower CA's. Bilstein 5100's
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Leaving now to go pick up the sheetmetal for this project. 1,300 miles round trip. Will post pictures when I get back.

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1986 CJ10-A SD-33 Diesel/727/np208
1971 800B with 345/T-19
06' TJ Rubicon, 4" R.C. springs, BFG/AT 35s M.C. 6" fenders, rockers and surrounds, Currie front & rear adj. tracbars, tattons DC rear shaft, adj. upper - lower CA's. Bilstein 5100's
YJ Buggy Build Current project. Stroker/FI ?
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Turns out it was only 1100 miles.

Drove all through the night with help from another JF member (thanks). We pulled the parts off the frame, loaded up, and left around noonish.

Drove all day, and arrived back home 24 hrs. later. As promised, here is the cab as it sits on the trailer.
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'85 CJ7, BDS 4" lift, 1" Body lift, 33x12.5, Shrockworks Sliders, 304 V8 with RV cam., T-176, D300, Dana 30, AMC 20.
1986 CJ10-A SD-33 Diesel/727/np208
1971 800B with 345/T-19
06' TJ Rubicon, 4" R.C. springs, BFG/AT 35s M.C. 6" fenders, rockers and surrounds, Currie front & rear adj. tracbars, tattons DC rear shaft, adj. upper - lower CA's. Bilstein 5100's
YJ Buggy Build Current project. Stroker/FI ?
1990 MJ Comanche 4.0L AX15/np231
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Looks like that was well worth the drive Eric.
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post #57 of 278 Old 02-20-2011, 07:45 AM
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It looks like it has TJ style master cylinder and booster.

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post #58 of 278 Old 02-20-2011, 10:30 AM
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That thing is gonna be sweet!!!

... I guess I'm gonna have to fix that too…….

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Hey Sonic, nice avatar pic. You make Chrysler proud!

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post #60 of 278 Old 02-21-2011, 05:57 AM Thread Starter
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It looks like it has TJ style master cylinder and booster.
I was noticeing that, but was wondering...

This cab is an 84. The serial number indicates it was the 511 nth. one off the line since 84 was the first year, and 86 the last. My chasis is an 86.

The aluminum body MC. obviously fits a CJ, so it would be good to know what it came off of back in 84, so it would be a good swap candidate for someone looking for a power brake upgrade.

I'll get some closer pictures so maybe someone can identify it.

I can just see the look on the parts guys faces when I go in and ask them for a MC for a CJ10A

'85 CJ7, BDS 4" lift, 1" Body lift, 33x12.5, Shrockworks Sliders, 304 V8 with RV cam., T-176, D300, Dana 30, AMC 20.
1986 CJ10-A SD-33 Diesel/727/np208
1971 800B with 345/T-19
06' TJ Rubicon, 4" R.C. springs, BFG/AT 35s M.C. 6" fenders, rockers and surrounds, Currie front & rear adj. tracbars, tattons DC rear shaft, adj. upper - lower CA's. Bilstein 5100's
YJ Buggy Build Current project. Stroker/FI ?
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