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Unread 01-21-2011, 01:40 PM   #31
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I think the diesel scout would be pretty neat.

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Unread 01-21-2011, 02:00 PM   #32
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I dunno. Even turbocharged that Nissan diesel is an anemic pig. If I were looking for a capable 4x4 that got good fuel mileage I might consider one. The commute would have to be relatively flat and uneventful.
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Unread 01-21-2011, 05:27 PM   #33
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Here is the tub I picked up today. Doesn't look like much, but free is free.
cj10-replacement-cj5-tub-001.jpg   cj10-replacement-cj5-tub-002.jpg  
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Unread 01-21-2011, 09:09 PM   #34
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Hoping the CJ5 tub fits... I really dont wanna see you cut up that scout
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Unread 01-23-2011, 09:29 AM   #35
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Anybody have an old NP208 laying around that they can scavenge the Hi-Lo range shift fork and the range sector plate from?

I can find the mode shift fork for sale new, but not seeing the range fork.

Not sure but I think the Ford and Doge NP208 ones will also work. Still checking on this.
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Unread 01-23-2011, 09:42 AM   #36
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Here is the tub I picked up today. Doesn't look like much, but free is free.
Free is very good! Tub looks to be in decent shape??
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Unread 02-15-2011, 07:19 AM   #37
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Update on project

Ok, making good progress now. Here is where it stands.

I test fitted the old CJ5 tub, and have decided that I don't want any of those worms in the can. Way too much engineering. Since the Nissan Diesel is long, I even tried the CJ5 tub with old Willys truck front end. That took care of the length, but still too much fabrication needed for my taste.

I found a good deal on an np208 passenger side drop from a dodge that would bolt on. This way I can use those Dodge axles I have. Then the cold weather hit, so the project kind of just sat there...

It gave me time to really think about the direction I wanted to go...

So I found a great deal on a 86 Grand Cherokee. Trouble is, it is in Phoenix. 1,400 mile round trip pulling a big trailer. The guy said I could drive it here, but that's too risky IMO. So I cooked up 100 gallons of homebrew diesel, and left Alpine at 3PM Saturday evening, promissing the wifey I would be back in time for Valentines.

Had a friend go with me, and off we went. Here is the truck:
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Unread 02-15-2011, 07:27 AM   #38
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Made it back Sunday night about 11pm with no events.

Sure is going to be a shame to use such a fine truck for parts, but it sure solves all my problems. See, I found all the original sheet metal for the tug. Cab, hood, fenders etc... Everything I need. So with the Wagoneer axles, and the Sheetmetal for the CJ10-A, I now have all the pieces in place, except a bed. I may use that free CJ5 tub just for the back end after all, but may just wait and see what happens when I get to that point.

Here is the look I'm going for:
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Unread 02-15-2011, 07:36 AM   #39
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The bad news, is that the sheet metal I'm getting is farther away than Phoenix was. I'm brewing up another hundred gallons as I type, so will be leaving this weekend. I keep having to remind myself how much fun this is

So I will end up with a CJ10 that has something like 3.31's running 35's.

The sweet spot on that diesel is 2150 rpm. I calculate that I will be at 67 mph. That seems about right for me. Now to get to work stripping down that Waggy to the frame.
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Made it back Sunday night about 11pm with no events.

Sure is going to be a shame to use such a fine truck for parts, but it sure solves all my problems. See, I found all the original sheet metal for the tug. Cab, hood, fenders etc... Everything I need. So with the Wagoneer axles, and the Sheetmetal for the CJ10-A, I now have all the pieces in place, except a bed. I may use that free CJ5 tub just for the back end after all, but may just wait and see what happens when I get to that point.

Here is the look I'm going for:
Oh Heck yes... I like the look. Kind of reminds me of the old Dodge Power Wagons. I know that the traveling is a PITA, but we're all sitting here in the comfort of our heated houses, saying "GO, MAN, GO"! I like the Grand Cherokee too! Sell the rest of it to MoC... he can hang it up in his shop!!
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Unread 02-15-2011, 09:38 AM   #41
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does this mean we won't be seeing the completion of the Willys anytime soon?






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Unread 02-15-2011, 12:45 PM   #42
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does this mean we won't be seeing the completion of the Willys anytime soon?






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Darn! I knew I was forgetting something.

Been waiting for warm weather to put in the front glass, and paint between the bed and cab area. Figure a couple more weeks and I'll get all the metal mounted, then just a matter of body work. All the big stuff done, so should be a piece of cake.

Ok, go that out of the way, back to the CJ10...

What is a good wheel base for a combination of crawling and DDing?

Anyone know why I would need more or less than say 109"?
I think that is what the waggy frame is, and think that would be the easiest. I suppose I could take the two halves of the frame, and just weld them together where ever the stock waggy drive shaft ends up being. This would save some money, and aslo make it easy to find parts.

Once I get the tub off waggy, I'll put them side by side, and be able to lay it out better, but am just trying to plan ahead for now.

Anything but real work!
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Oh Heck yes... I like the look. Kind of reminds me of the old Dodge Power Wagons. I know that the traveling is a PITA, but we're all sitting here in the comfort of our heated houses, saying "GO, MAN, GO"! I like the Grand Cherokee too! Sell the rest of it to MoC... he can hang it up in his shop!!
Thats still in the works, just want to get the CJ back up and running first.
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What is a good wheel base for a combination of crawling and DDing?

Anyone know why I would need more or less than say 109"?
It depends on tire size when it comes to crawling. With a 109" wheelbase I would be running at least a 39.5" or 42" tire. Any smaller and you'll be dragging the belly quite a bit.
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It depends on tire size when it comes to crawling. With a 109" wheelbase I would be running at least a 39.5" or 42" tire. Any smaller and you'll be dragging the belly quite a bit.
I'm going to run 35's because that is what I already have.

So please explain how this works. The shorter the wheel base the smaller the tire you can run? That's the way it seems it should work to me, but my logic could be all wrong.
Edit: I'm going to start a new thread on this subject.
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