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post #136 of 278 Old 04-25-2011, 03:09 PM Thread Starter
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Pulled the gas tank and skid plate off the YJ. The tank won't fit, but the skid plate will work with my spare CJ tank, so that is the combo I'm going with.

The YJ tank is wider than my frame.

I can't really mount the tank until I determine the bed configuration, so I started pulling the tub off the YJ. Here is where i left off.

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post #137 of 278 Old 04-26-2011, 08:25 AM
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For neutral safety switch,I dont think cj10a has one.It had some sort of mechanical restriction on steering column which let you start only on park and neutral.

Just an FYI, that's exactly what a neutral safety switch is. It only lets the engine start in park or neutral.

It's too late for this, but you can also weld a hex nut onto a stubborn torx. Often times the heat will break whatever bond there is keeping the bolt from turning.
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Just an FYI, that's exactly what a neutral safety switch is. It only lets the engine start in park or neutral.

It's too late for this, but you can also weld a hex nut onto a stubborn torx. Often times the heat will break whatever bond there is keeping the bolt from turning.
I did think about it, but the YJ is too far away from my welder, and it would have been a lot of trouble to move it closer.

Good news is that I just got my radiator back from the shop, and I should be able to install it very soon. I may get to test drive the beast this weekend!

I'm having a lot of difficulty figuring exactly where to cut the back of the bed off. I only want to cut once, but it is going to be very close to the front slope of the rear fender area. Then I have to figure out the curve for the bulkhead.

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I installed the radiator today, filled with fluid, and cranked the engine up. She started fairly easily, and purrs. Ok, if a diesel can purrr or not, I don't know. The engine sounds good and idles well. Oil pressure is good. and no leaks.

I installed the rear drive shaft, so all that is left is to bleed the brakes and get all the turn signals hooked up etc...

I also have to fab a shift lever for the NP208. I have a plan, but it can wait until I get all the other bugs worked out.

The fuel tank is on my short list. I may install the original stainless steel tank temporary until I get the bed on. Then install my CJ tank.
I'll get some pictures up soon.

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Gonna bite the bullet and cut the tub huh? That would be tough for me to do too but you have, it's paid for and in great shape. Sounds like you've got a plan.
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Gonna bite the bullet and cut the tub huh? That would be tough for me to do too but you have, it's paid for and in great shape. Sounds like you've got a plan.
Yeah Jim, I guess I am.

I keep thinking if I wait, a wrecked in the front tub will appear, and I could trade them mine for it, but living where I do, the odds are it won't happen soon enough. I'm also contemplating a flat bed with sides about 12" high, and one of those cargo nets for a tailgate. It would get me by until something better comes my way.

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Yeah Jim, I guess I am.

I keep thinking if I wait, a wrecked in the front tub will appear, and I could trade them mine for it, but living where I do, the odds are it won't happen soon enough. I'm also contemplating a flat bed with sides about 12" high, and one of those cargo nets for a tailgate. It would get me by until something better comes my way.
It's your call Eric and I sure wouldn't blame you for using what you have. Good solid tubs up this way are tough to find. Almost non to be had in CJ's. Good YJ tubs are more plentiful but they can be hard to find.

I also think the flatbed would be very good. In some ways it may even be better. You could custom taylor it to what you want. Hows your fab skills? You up to tackling one? From all I've seen you do I think it would be a breeze for you.

Also, if you can, I want to hear that diesel run.
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Hows your fab skills? You up to tackling one? From all I've seen you do I think it would be a breeze for you.

Also, if you can, I want to hear that diesel run.
I have never really tried to fab a tub. I think I could do it if I had the right tools though. I don't have a bender or a roller, so everything would end up square looking, which I don't want.

I'll try to get a video up. My phone is an old one, so I don't think it does video. Maybe my camera does...

I dread the day when my cell phone dies, and I'm stuck having to buy one of those new ones that wipes your *** for you.

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I have never really tried to fab a tub. I think I could do it if I had the right tools though. I don't have a bender or a roller, so everything would end up square looking, which I don't want.

I'll try to get a video up. My phone is an old one, so I don't think it does video. Maybe my camera does...

I dread the day when my cell phone dies, and I'm stuck having to buy one of those new ones that wipes your *** for you.
I don't even own a cell phone!! I refuse to have one.

I see your point on the square corners, hadn't thought of that.
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Today, I welded on the rear crossmember. It came off my parts wagoneer, but fit nicely.

Then I started in on the cj fuel tank fitment. I decided the easiest solution was to cut out the crossmember from the YJ, and I bolted it plus welded it onto the frame just in front of the rearmost crossmember.

I added the YJ skid plate which I had to narrow for the CJ tank. Then I set the tank in place, and started bolting it all together. Surprisingly all the stock holes lined up for the skid plate.

It really wasn't a big deal, but I think it helps to have lots of OEM parts around to cut up and such.

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Glad things are going together for you. It looks really cool!

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I mounted the tank, performed a couple of other minor tasks such as changing out the hood latches, and bleeding the brakes.

I poured five gallons of diesel into the tank, and fired her up. She ran fine for a few minutes, then started stumbling until she died. Had to be fuel related, so I started looking into the cause.

I noticed that it was way to hard to pull fuel from the tank, so I pulled out the sender. I was looking to see if the sock was plugged. It didn't appear to be, but I cut the end off anyways. My thought is that diesel is oily, and it must be hard to pull through the sock.

The engine has two 10 micron fuel filters installed, so I don't feel a need for the sock anyways. I reprimed, and she fired right up. Ran perfectly, so I think that was the problem.

I adjusted the shift linkage, put the x-fer case into 2H, and went for a test drive. The transmission found all the gears, downshifted properly, and all in all drove very nice. I only went up to about 30mph since I didn't have the hood latches installed at that time.

Oh, I took a video, but there is no sound, so am not going to post it.
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Already driving it!! Now that's what I call getting busy. You don't need hood latches Eric, wire will work.
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Niiice, diesel engines are so cool!!!

Had to comment on the cell phone thing. They make life so much easier!!! And if I have a question about anything, anywhere, I got the answer at my fingertips!!!! Oh yeah, and Jeepforum at the touch of a button. I helped a buddy replace his alternator yesterday, 2008 Dodge Caliber, without the Internet, I would have taken the entire front end off to get to the stupid alternator!!! And it was. Easy as dropping the a/c compressor out, and squeezing the alternator out the bottom, thank you cell phone!!! (Btw, a project I will never do again!)

As for the tub, buy the prevent corners and do the rest yourself... No need for bending!

... I guess I'm gonna have to fix that too…….

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As for the tub, buy the prevent corners and do the rest yourself... No need for bending!
Good idea! I'll start looking for some.

Had a good day today. Got a bunch of the little nagging things accomplished. Put a proper grommet in the firewall to run the wires for the glow plugs the proper way. Now if the relay ever goes out, I have a backup push button.

Put the doors on and washed the whole truck down to get off some of the grime so I can buff the oxidizing paint.

Took for another longer test drive to kill a few rattles.

Also took the front bumper off the YJ to see if it looks good. I'm going with it until I fab up a better one.

One thing I find amazing is that there are zero leaks.
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