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Unread 03-25-2010, 09:06 AM   #16
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This looks great! Between the things you put out here and John's diagrams I've got a stack of pages printed out that I keep tucked in my Chilton's. They go out to the Jeep with me each time I do any work. How about you two collaborate and produce a book? This sort of information is never available in the manuals in a way that's as easy to read/understand as what you guys are doing. I'd buy it in a second! Heck, I'd buy ten copies just to keep you guys in beer!

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Unread 03-26-2010, 03:54 AM   #17
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Where do you think I got this old rusted up piece of crap?
I took it off your work bench when you weren't looking!

John, I was hoping you would see this!
Can I use some of your pictures of other components in the picture/image/diagram drawings?
Don't want to swipe pictures without permission, and I'd like to collaborate with you on this.

I've got a guy, publisher, that is interested in producing a CJ book (I'm lobbying for CD so we can go interactive and it's easier to update) and I'd like you in on it.

You are actually I stole the component picture/combined with diagram idea from...
(I know a good idea when I steal it! )
Your 'Flashing Light' diagrams are one of those little brilliant ideas, and I'd like to use that same idea on some stuff...

This was actually a REAL PAIN to do!
You are CONSTANTLY in a fight to keep the size down without packing stuff in so tightly the 'Average Joe' can't follow the diagrams/wire paths..

You don't know what direction to run the wires/components in the beginning, so you wind up doing this 4 or 5 times to work everything in there!
I've got 5 hours in that diagram alone!
Of course you can use any of my pictures. If you need any more, let me know.

I tried to do something like that to just run a particular circuit like the headlights, but the parts started to get fuzzier on the edges every time I made a change.
Like this:

p.s. I'm not sure the trace colors on this drawing, I think the green wires actually use a black trace mark. But this is an old drawing.


But I like your idea of actually using a picture of the part you are trying to concentrate on. Instead of block diagrams.

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Unread 03-26-2010, 08:45 AM   #18
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Of course you can use any of my pictures. If you need any more, let me know.

I tried to do something like that to just run a particular circuit like the headlights, but the parts started to get fuzzier on the edges every time I made a change.
Like this:

p.s. I'm not sure the trace colors on this drawing, I think the green wires actually use a black trace mark. But this is an old drawing.


But I like your idea of actually using a picture of the part you are trying to concentrate on. Instead of block diagrams.
John, you kicked my butt again!
That looks GREAT!

All I do is make changes!
Every time I think I have something nailed down, I find something else I forgot and have to move things around and start again...

The background color sure makes the image show up well,
That would let me use actual color coding, Yellow would show up that way.
Makes the images a little larger when compressed, but it looks like it's worth it to me!
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Unread 03-26-2010, 12:36 PM   #19
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Very nice, thanks for that work. Other than John's remarks all I can say is a 76 used 3AG fuses not AGC fuses. The fuse location should be specified by if a 3AG block or an ATC block.

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Unread 03-26-2010, 02:30 PM   #20
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You gents rock with your diagrams. I do like the ones on top of the parts the best. I read schematics well but when explaining to someone who doesn't they make it so much clearer.
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Unread 03-26-2010, 11:00 PM   #21
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In regards to John's diagram you can also add text in an open area defining the circuits, such as, circuit 25 is low beam headlamps, circuit 3 is high beam headlamps and so on... Good idea guys.
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Unread 03-29-2010, 01:22 PM   #22
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Well, we try...
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Unread 03-29-2010, 03:35 PM   #23
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Hammer, JS
I hope you guys have ran into some of us (not litterally) and really understand how much everyone apppreciates this. It is so freaking awesome that you guys take the time to verify this stuff, lay it out, and reverify this stuff. I gar-en-tee that if either of you ever make it out here to Oakridge or Crozet while i'm there the steaks and beer are on me for the weekend!


oh and now for something completely different......
If anyone knows or can contribute the locations of "splice ___" that would help also. I remember going through diagrams only to find them on the PS fender when i was looking on the DS fender etc...

keep up the great work!
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