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Need help with gears
I have an 86 CJ7 with the TF99 Dana 300 and dana 44 rear end.
I have 35 inch tires on it and have not regeared. Acceleration is poor, as well as gas mileage. What do i need to do to regear?
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If you search 're-gear' you'll get all you need to know; this subject comes up a lot. Chances are good that if you have to ask, you'll probably (almost guaranteedly) want to just have a shop do it. There's lots of ways to mess this one up and completely trash your gears.
As for a quick summary of needed parts: -gears (in your case likely 4.56 or 4.88) -carriers (you'll need both front and rear axle) -gear install kits -diff cover gaskets -silicone RTV -gear oil |
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I ran the exact set up, year, tanny, tire size, the rare for that year d44 rear end, every thing you have. I used 4: 11 gearing that helped alot but on the highway 70mph I was at 2800 on the tach. Any lower gearing 4.56 or lower would make your engine scream at high way speeds assuming its a i6 258. If you dont go hwy speeds go with 4.56 or lower. I fixed my problem by installing a 5 speed manual tranny.
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1946 jeep cj2a- chevy 350, holly carb 600cfm, edlebrock intake, sm465 tranny with dana 300 transfer case, dual flowmaster exhaust, dana 30 axle up front, amc 20 in rear, 31" bfg all terrain tires 1986 jeep cj7 weber carb, comp cam rv cam, borla header and cat-back system, rancho 1.5 suspension lift, detroit trutrac limited slip, 35" bfg all terrains, Team Rushed, rock crawler bumpers in front and back. |
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i am very happy with my 4.56 on 35's at times wish was lower, but I would not do 4.10's
mine is fine on the highway (but i try not to put it there)
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The OP has an auto tranny. 4.10 gears may be sufficient considering that the auto tranny's torque converter will help getting started from a dead stop or on hills and still yield decent gas mileage and highway RPM.
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My thoughts and experience exactly. the only time I wanted for more gearing was in loose sand then I would just shift the transfer case into low range. I swapped in a manual 5 speed eventually, to get more on the top end. 70mph at 3000 rpm was killing my gas milage not to mention the i6 does not like high rpms.
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1946 jeep cj2a- chevy 350, holly carb 600cfm, edlebrock intake, sm465 tranny with dana 300 transfer case, dual flowmaster exhaust, dana 30 axle up front, amc 20 in rear, 31" bfg all terrain tires 1986 jeep cj7 weber carb, comp cam rv cam, borla header and cat-back system, rancho 1.5 suspension lift, detroit trutrac limited slip, 35" bfg all terrains, Team Rushed, rock crawler bumpers in front and back. |
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Another thought is that there is a 4.27 ratio available for the D30 and D44. This could be a good compromise for 35's.
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Quote:
4Lo.com :: Gear Ratio & Tire Size Chart |
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1946 jeep cj2a- chevy 350, holly carb 600cfm, edlebrock intake, sm465 tranny with dana 300 transfer case, dual flowmaster exhaust, dana 30 axle up front, amc 20 in rear, 31" bfg all terrain tires 1986 jeep cj7 weber carb, comp cam rv cam, borla header and cat-back system, rancho 1.5 suspension lift, detroit trutrac limited slip, 35" bfg all terrains, Team Rushed, rock crawler bumpers in front and back. Last edited by curbcrawler; 11-26-2009 at 01:46 AM.. |
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At 65 mph, I am turning 2300+ rpm with 33" tires, 3.31 gears and 1:1 tranny gear. The chart says I should be turning 2191 rpm. Hmm unless my tires are actually 32. Ok, nevermind....
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I did some calulations using the rotational velocity formula at this web site:Gear Design Equations Formulas Calculator Velocity Speed MPH
The rotational velocity (engine RPM) for a true 35" tire at 70 MPH would be 2755 RPM. Considering that your 35's are a little less than 35" true diameter, it looks like your 2800 RPM figure is in a very close ball park. |
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1946 jeep cj2a- chevy 350, holly carb 600cfm, edlebrock intake, sm465 tranny with dana 300 transfer case, dual flowmaster exhaust, dana 30 axle up front, amc 20 in rear, 31" bfg all terrain tires 1986 jeep cj7 weber carb, comp cam rv cam, borla header and cat-back system, rancho 1.5 suspension lift, detroit trutrac limited slip, 35" bfg all terrains, Team Rushed, rock crawler bumpers in front and back. |
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