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Unread 10-26-2010, 09:44 PM   #1
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My two Cj7 apocalyptic builds from the under world

(prepare for a long winded post about pointless background)

July, 2010 Cj7 purchased $3500
81' 258, T150, D20, AMC20, D30 WT
33x12.5"tires

October 2010 rusted Cj5 parts vehicle $325
78' 258,T150, D20, AMC20,D30 NT

I have the dash out of the CJ7 now and I am going to pull the heater box. I am almost to the point where I want to do a frame off but I know that wouldnt be wise. I am going to use the driveline from the Cj5 (90k miles not seized) and rebuild it. That will then go into the Cj5 frame. I would like to get the Cj7 back to DD condition so I can use it this winter. I need to get heat, and wiring fixed. I am working on that all now.Then I will just drive it till I blow it!

I want to take it slow with the 5 and build it how I want. Im thinking 33" Mickey thompsons. 3.73s 258 bored .030". That way I can drive and enjoy the 7 and have the ideal jeep being build. Win, win!

I am picking up the 5 this saturday so pictures to come then. The tub will be trashed and possibly fenders. Alot of usable parts still on it. Im going to do 90% of the work myself and learn along the way.

pictures and possibly video to follow tomorrow if I figure out how to get the sony conversion to work.

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Unread 11-07-2010, 07:18 AM   #2
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ok heres an update, the Sale on the 5 fell through. probably for the better as a deal for $1500 on 2 7's (on runs, one for parts) popped up and might be doable.

for $200 I got 2 YJ half doors in great condition, 2 steel fenders with some surface rust, and a fiberglass hood with a small crack in it. Drove 2 hours to get it one way in the F250, cost me $50 in diesel, he wanted $275 I said $200 since I got to drive. It was worth it.

Sooooo onto the hood repair (pay attention Skerr )

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Unread 11-07-2010, 07:26 AM   #3
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here is the hood I startted with. The cracking is just the gelcoat.



Here is a closeup of the crack. Its in 2 places



here it is from the top



One thing I notice right off the bat from handling the fiberglass hood is its light, pro, and flimsy, con. I wanted to preserve the nicer light weight but I wanted to strengthen it. So I looked around the shop with my thinking cap on. I came across a 1.25" wide piece of 36" long aluminum .125" thick. I then bent it in the bench vise to follow the contours of the hood, it fits fairly good.





I then grabbed some of our 6oz glass and measured it. I put down 3 layers of glass to make sure and strengthen that area.



the support bar barely shows through



The glass is liad out and ready to start.



here is the crack at the corner. I took duct tape and pulled the corner taught to bring the 2 halves together. It worked quite well.



After 3 layers of glass here is what it looked like. Its got a few bubbles but not to bad. Im going to go back with some epoxy and filler and I want to blend it into the hood and make it just as smooth as that top.

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Unread 11-07-2010, 08:45 AM   #4
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"Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' ... If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!" —Samuel Adams

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Unread 11-07-2010, 08:53 AM   #5
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I used to (still do) build large high powered rockets with fiberglass. I knew these tecniques would come in handy. Imstill not very good at it but I try. Mynext big challenge it to get a latch on here and light. I still want the hood latch along with the sring loaded holders and I think a light will come in handy.

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Unread 11-07-2010, 08:54 AM   #6
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for reference:



That wooden ladder is 10 feet tall.


Edit: that was three years ago.

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That wooden ladder is 10 feet tall.


Edit: that was three years ago.

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I have a spud gun bigger than that!!
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Unread 11-14-2010, 07:19 PM   #8
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ok, I need to update some pictures. I have now removed the whole front end. I am working on painting the engine and cleaning up the engine bay.

I am going to rewire the whole jeep and I am resealing the heater box and air duct.

I need to get somemore pics. I am going to order some500 degree paint in yellow blue and black. The jeep will use those 3 colors throughout.

Im hopingto order the weber carb rebuild kit, and engine overhaul gasket set this week.

My dad made the comment ' if you keep going, im going to walk into the garage and see a nut and bolt where your jeep used to be' I said 'its a jeep thing dad'

More to come!

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You're going to do good Ben. Looking forward to the pics. Also interetsed in this color scheme you got going! Could look like the bumblebee from he**!
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Scott's Build Thread
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You're going to do good Ben. Looking forward to the pics. Also interetsed in this color scheme you got going! Could look like the bumblebee from he**!
thanks man. Im trying to make this work at $8.01 an hr

once I get it paid off ($3k left) i will get another frame to work on while I drive this!!

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Good idea on the aluminum strip to reinforce the hood! For filler I would look at Evercoats Everglass, or Duraglass which can be bought locally. Basically just short strand fiberglass reinforced filler. Works very good and is very strong! I keep telling Scott (Skerr) about it but I don't think he has tried it out yet.
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Good idea on the aluminum strip to reinforce the hood! For filler I would look at Evercoats Everglass, or Duraglass which can be bought locally. Basically just short strand fiberglass reinforced filler. Works very good and is very strong! I keep telling Scott (Skerr) about it but I don't think he has tried it out yet.
im not sure what I want to do. I thought about ordering some fiberglass strand mat that can be used with epoxy resin instead of polyester. Put a whole sheet on the underside of the hood to thicken it/reinforce and to have something to smooth out. we shall see. I just dont like the look of the strand mat underside of the hood. I need to atleast get it semi-smooth and painted.

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I did what you were doing last year.I always wish i would have done a frame off.They look much better painted.I had a few issues i should have did with the frame I didn't see till I was done.
Keep up the good work.Looks Great
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im not sure what I want to do. I thought about ordering some fiberglass strand mat that can be used with epoxy resin instead of polyester. Put a whole sheet on the underside of the hood to thicken it/reinforce and to have something to smooth out. we shall see. I just dont like the look of the strand mat underside of the hood. I need to atleast get it semi-smooth and painted.

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That's the good thing about the Everglass and Duraglass, it can be sanded smooth. It's VERY strong. We used it on import fiberglass body kits when molding the fiberglass body kit to the metal. Once it was sanded smooth we went over it with a light weight filler like Rage Gold and it was smooth as glass and ready for paint.
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I did what you were doing last year.I always wish i would have done a frame off.They look much better painted.I had a few issues i should have did with the frame I didn't see till I was done.
Keep up the good work.Looks Great
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heres where Im at, I want a nice frame off jeep. I dont have the money though and I LOVE driving the one I have. So I want to get this one into a shape that I can just run it all year long for years to come till it dies. There arent any major problems (other than the throwout bearing chattering) so it should hold. then in 2-3 years when I finish a frame up of another jeep. This one will be ready to be retired for restoration. And the madness will continue till I have to many jeeps to count

things left to do
  • carb rebuild
  • engine gaskets
  • engine paint
  • new fluids everywhere
  • repair heater box (with upgraded blower)
  • clean air box
  • get front grill soda blastd
  • paint radiator
  • strip rest of tub
  • rattle can it best I can and drive the hell out of my new tires!

can it be done by christmas?!?!?

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