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post #1 of 18 Old 04-13-2013, 06:53 PM Thread Starter
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Moving Back up to NY. How do I prepare my scrambler for the salt?

Hey all. Long story short, I came down to Florida 5 years ago for college. Along the way I picked myself up an 81' scrambler in pretty solid condition, she just required a lot of TLC. I'm all finished up down here and plan on moving back next month to New York (Long Island) and she's definitely coming with. I was talking to Jim over at OK4WD (some of you OME converters may know him) because I was looking for a localish Jeep shop up there in case I ever needed any future help. When I told him that I planned on using the jeep during the winter months, he was shocked. He told me that I should just keep it in a garage all winter or else within a year or two, the salt from the roads will completely destroy the frame. How do you Northern CJ'ers cope with this? Will I really have to lock it up for half the year? Some proponents of POR-15 have mentioned to me in the past that a simple coat of that stuff on the undercarriage will end all my worries, is this true? I'd really appreciate the advice, because although she is my daily driver, I'd like to keep her in show conditions!

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post #2 of 18 Old 04-13-2013, 07:01 PM
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I wouldn't worry to much about the snow but the beach is the killer around here.

I am in deep
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sell it to me???
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As Jim told you. Put it away during the winter, and don't get near the beach or coast line with it. Salt will wick its way into even the most prepared and sealed up Jeep and you'll be left with nothing but a pile of rubble.

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post #5 of 18 Old 04-13-2013, 09:47 PM
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I have prepared mine for the salt with fiberglass body parts, galvanize dipped TDK frame with POR15 coating on the outside and Eastwood's Internal Frame Coating on the inside. Every bolt is Never-Siezed, and all possible hardware is stainless steel. Hinges, mirrors, etc., are stainless.

If you want to keep that beauty all original like that, store it for the winters and get a TJ or a CJ7 for the snow season.

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post #6 of 18 Old 04-14-2013, 08:47 AM
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I'd say he's right. Store it for the winter and pick up a beater Cherokee to get you around. Or do what Cutlass327 did. It's cheaper to buy a beater though.

I'm not sure what tomorrow will bring, but it can't be any worse than what I've already been through.
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post #7 of 18 Old 04-14-2013, 08:59 AM
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I 2nd/3rd the "buy a winter beater". Cheaper old school MO (for road salt) is spray the under carriage 50% diesel, 50% used motor oil. Do it annually and it'll keep salt damage at bay (somewhat). It does make maintenance a sloppy chore though....

Certainly a lot quicker than Galvy dip/POR 15 etc. I guess it also depends whether it's a #1 example or #5 example of a Scrambler?

Just my .02
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post #8 of 18 Old 04-14-2013, 10:24 AM
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I 2nd/3rd the "buy a winter beater". Cheaper old school MO (for road salt) is spray the under carriage 50% diesel, 50% used motor oil. Do it annually and it'll keep salt damage at bay (somewhat). It does make maintenance a sloppy chore though....

Certainly a lot quicker than Galvy dip/POR 15 etc. I guess it also depends whether it's a #1 example or #5 example of a Scrambler?

Just my .02
I 4th that thought... otherwise, unless you can pick your jeep up and dunk it in a tank of wax, or clean the heck out of the underside and put a really good coat of undercoating on ... and unfortunately, that doesn't fill the frame tubes, body holes, etc.. and the road salt, sea salt, and anything else corrosive gets in there.. best go with a beater daily driver for the winter months.. take a look at most cars/trucks in the NE, and you can just about see under the body all the way across to the other side where the rust has eaten away the lower portion of the vehicle.. don't know how the bodies stay on the frames back there.. on a better note, DON'T move to NY.. go west..

I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like the passengers in his JEEP!...
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on a better note, DON'T move to NY.. go west..

Seriously, why the heck would you want to move back to NY? Must be a woman or something, but let me tell you it ain't worth it.
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SEM rustshield, Eastwood's frame coating kit, and maybe some Fluid Film on top, and that should protect you for a while...but you'll never really fully seal it off unfortunately if it's exposed to a Northeast winter / coast.
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Seriously, why the heck would you want to move back to NY? Must be a woman or something, but let me tell you it ain't worth it.
You already live in paradise, Why go back? I've been here 5 years, and I don't own enough clothes to stay warm up there.

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post #12 of 18 Old 04-14-2013, 03:55 PM
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anybody who moves deliberately and intentionally from Florida to New York should sell his jeep and invest the money into getting some professional counseling
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post #13 of 18 Old 04-14-2013, 05:31 PM
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Throw a few cans of Eastwood internal frame coating inside of the frame. http://www.eastwood.com/internal-fra...ay-nozzle.html
It's listed for $19.99 a can, but if you call them they were selling them for $9.99 a can for phone sales.
The nozzle can then be used on paint cans also. I just put my 3rd coat of Rustolium, on top of the Eastwood's, inside my frame today.
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post #14 of 18 Old 04-14-2013, 08:13 PM
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The bigger question is why are you moving to NY? But on topic, yes the Jeep will be destroyed from the salt on the roads and the ocean salt. I'm from MI and made the mistake of moving from TX to MI once, and said **** this, then got smart and went back to TX.
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I have prepared mine for the salt with fiberglass body parts, galvanize dipped TDK frame with POR15 coating on the outside and Eastwood's Internal Frame Coating on the inside. Every bolt is Never-Siezed, and all possible hardware is stainless steel. Hinges, mirrors, etc., are stainless.

If you want to keep that beauty all original like that, store it for the winters and get a TJ or a CJ7 for the snow season.
Yep. Because even with all the stuff that Cutlass just listed he did, it will STILL rust eventually.

I think a more pertinent question is this: Why in the hell would you move to NY from Florida????

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