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Unread 01-23-2013, 09:28 AM   #1441
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MoC,

It probably goes without saying, but I'd do a test section in an area that won't be visible.

You can easily chase your tail trying to make it perfect. I finally had to compromise my standards a little, or I'd still be buffing.

Honestly, I don't understand the "there's always a little orange peel, you should expect to do a little wet-sanding" comments on your paint thread. I even talked to my local body shop owner about this. It's a big shop, and they do a lot of customs and classic restorations. He said that a good painter should never have to touch the surface with sand paper after the initial prep work is done. That seems consistent with my limited experience, as well.

Anyway, good luck, man. Don't drive yourself nuts with it, it's only paint. Like my Father used to say, " a bad haircut is only a month away from a good one."

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Unread 01-23-2013, 10:03 AM   #1442
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Honestly, I don't understand the "there's always a little orange peel, you should expect to do a little wet-sanding" comments on your paint thread.
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It was meant for your average DIYers not those who are professionals who do it everyday..
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Unread 01-23-2013, 10:54 AM   #1443
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It was meant for your average DIYers not those who are professionals who do it everyday..
...and also, many factory paint jobs come through with acceptable orange peel...

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Unread 01-23-2013, 11:36 AM   #1444
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...and also, many factory paint jobs come through with acceptable orange peel...

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Very true, Rich. I can see a little on my factory Tundra finish. My wife's Infinity, on the other hand, is like glass.

My point was, if sprayed properly there shouldn't be any sanding, or buffing involved after the primer is laid. I managed to do this successfully on about 75% of my amateur garage spray job. The other 25% shows my inexperience, but is acceptable.

Every area that I tried to wet-sand/buff looked worse afterwards. That may be due to the single-stage paint I used. As I understand it, the "gloss" in a single stage moves to the surface as the paint dries. I found if I sanded thru that thin layer of gloss, and it didn't take much, the surface would never have the same glossiness, no matter how much buffing I did.

Hopefully MoC has better luck than I did.

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Unread 01-23-2013, 02:36 PM   #1445
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I am prepared! Spent some time in Shermin Williams the other day talking to the auto guy and getting some advise.

Matt, you had my heart sink a little! Hope it's just in the clear and I did not think about the possibility of it in the base. We shall see!
Generally, base coat lays down very smooth and dries fast.

The orange peel is probably the clear.

You will need some sanding pads if you don't have them, the harder rubber compound for the flats and the softer rubber to sand the curves.
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Unread 01-23-2013, 08:17 PM   #1446
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Agree with 243. Rarely with base coat/clear coat will there be orange peel in the base. Your paint job will color sand to an extremely smooth and glossy finish. It's not so easy with single stage paints. My advise is to stay away from edges. The paint is thinner there. It is really rare that a base coat/clear coat paint job needs no color sanding no mater how skilled the painter.

Edit: unless you are content with some texture. Here is a brief run down on it. http://www.autopaintinginfo.com/cs.html
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Unread 01-25-2013, 01:41 PM   #1447
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Well some good news from the home front. Wet sanded, cut, and buffed the grill today. With a light wet sand the orange peel came out in it pretty good. Got it great but not perfect with little effort. Very happy with it.

Also decided to add inch to my clutch rod to bring the pedal back up level with the break pedal. Got it cut and one side threaded then my cheap die holder broke .

Going to get all Sunday to work on it so hoping it does not rain!
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Unread 01-26-2013, 05:02 PM   #1448
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Went and bought myself a decent die set today and finished up on the clutch rod. Going to get it adjusted and painted tomorrow along with a few other things.





Spent a cold & raining morning at the Tyler, Tx zoo today with the family. Not the best day for a zoo trip but after 1.5 hours driving to get there we just couldn't turn back.





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Unread 01-26-2013, 11:33 PM   #1449
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I had to giggle when I saw the clutch linkage because on mine the PO welded a male air chuck to the long nut and was running it that way, I actually drove it quite a bit on that setup before I discovered it!
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Unread 01-27-2013, 08:36 AM   #1450
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I wish you'd get busy and quit screwing around! How long you gonna drag this out?







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Unread 01-27-2013, 10:46 PM   #1451
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I wish you'd get busy and quit screwing around! How long you gonna drag this out?
Just another week or so Scott.

Spent the morning working on my F150 and not the jeep. My blower fan went bad.

Did get a few jeep things done including finishing swapping out some gauges on the dash, finished up the clutch rod extension and got it painted, installed the coil and coil bracket, ground strap from the tub to frame, tightened up the ps pump belt, primed the engine again.

Hoping to get everything wet sanded and buffed tomorrow. Basically just waiting on the carb which should be here in a few days. I want to get the carb installed and all the plug wires, vac lines, and fuel lines hooked up before I install the fenders. Since I sit a little high it is easier and I will not have to lean all over the fenders.

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Unread 01-28-2013, 05:48 AM   #1452
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Your not going to paint the dash too?
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Unread 01-28-2013, 06:13 AM   #1453
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Your not going to paint the dash too?
Thats in the plans for paint stage #2. I painted the firewall, cowl, grill, hood, and fenders with the engine swap. The goal is to do the body work and paint the exterior of the tub & dash within the year.
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Unread 01-28-2013, 11:59 AM   #1454
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Wet sanded & dried 4 times, then hit the hood with cutting compound and finish compound this am. Took a while but the hood came out perfect with no orange peel and did not burn through the clear anywhere.

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Unread 01-28-2013, 12:06 PM   #1455
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