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post #496 of 2044 Old 07-18-2011, 07:41 AM
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Hey Rich, would have some close up pictures of it with the rest front end accessories so I can see what it looks like.
Nothing great, but here are a few...















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Alternator assembly

So good day in parts land.

My ceramic coated Edelbrock Shortys came in.



Picked up my first load from the powder coater today as well.



Put the alternator back together. Simple stuff.



Installed the front and rear bearings.





Installed the front bearing retainer.



Installed the rectifier and the capacitor & capacitor bracket.



Installed the regulator.



So next comes the trick to getting the brushes back installed properly. You need a short length of welding wire. Install the brushes and springs, while doing this slide the welding wire through the pictured hole to hold the brushes in place.





Once the wire is in place install the brush holder assembly, diode trio, and resister in place and tighten it down. Leave the wire in place for now.



Next install the stator and bolt it down to the diode trio. Forgot to take a picture of this so here is a old one from when I took the "test run" one apart.



Next drop in the rotor being careful not to pinch the wire that is holding the brushes in place. Once the rotor is completely seated pull the wire out which will release the brushes to sit in their proper place.



From there just drop the top on, making sure you have it clocked the correct direction and bolt her up. Install the spacer, fan, and pulley and its a done deal.





So this weekend I am determined to do the final install on the water pump, timing chain cover, and oil pan. Also before doing that have to do the "bolt" mod to the oil pickup.

Hope all is well with everyone!

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Nice writeup, MoC. Everything looks great! Keep it coming!

BTW, what is the oil pickup bolt mod?

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thanks for taking the time to take all the pics. engine looks awesome
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Nice MoC! Really nice write-up. Thanks very much. I've never disassembled and alternator before, but now I ain't skeered! Congrats on the arrival of the parts too. I know how much fun that is!

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Ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh?.....motor porn

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Thanks for showing the guts of the alternator, I have replaced a few in my life and never considered rebuilding, it looks pretty simple.

The motor is looking great

I was looking at Rich's photos and thought, dang, 911K miles!!! Then I realized I was reading the mileage upside down

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hey MOC how much did it cost you to get that coated? did they sau how many lbs it was?

Cause the local place wants $100 to fire up the oven no matter if I do a bracket or whole frame. Its $100 plus the sq. footage of the piece

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Nice writeup, MoC. Everything looks great! Keep it coming!

BTW, what is the oil pickup bolt mod?

Rich
It is something mopar suggested doing. There is supposed to be some type of spacer between the bottom of the oil pick up and the oil pan to keep then pickup and pan from coming together and blocking the flow of oil. I will post so pictures when I do it this weekend, but really is nothing more than a bolt through the bottom of the pickup that keeps it from ever being able to close up.

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Thanks for showing the guts of the alternator, I have replaced a few in my life and never considered rebuilding, it looks pretty simple.

The motor is looking great

I was looking at Rich's photos and thought, dang, 911K miles!!! Then I realized I was reading the mileage upside down
Dave it was really simple to do once I figured it out. It is quicker and easier just to replace it as opposed to type to figure what part went out and rebuild a bad one. The alternator was brand new from Auto Zone with a lifetime warrenty. Just had to take it apart to get it powder coated. If it fails I will just bring back a old spare I have and swap the cases around with the new replacement one.


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hey MOC how much did it cost you to get that coated? did they sau how many lbs it was?

Cause the local place wants $100 to fire up the oven no matter if I do a bracket or whole frame. Its $100 plus the sq. footage of the piece

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Nice touch to take the time to powder coat the alternator MoC. The mod to the oil pickup sounds like a worthwhile job to take care of. If those are like the Fords the tube is just pressed in and if it got lose it very well could rotate and fall down on the pan. Everything is looking great.


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Ben,

Wanted to add the powder coater I went to has a board with a set price on just about everything auto you can think of from carb to frame to brackets to pullies. They will do just a $10 part if you want then to.

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It is something mopar suggested doing. There is supposed to be some type of spacer between the bottom of the oil pick up and the oil pan to keep then pickup and pan from coming together and blocking the flow of oil. I will post so pictures when I do it this weekend, but really is nothing more than a bolt through the bottom of the pickup that keeps it from ever being able to close up.

That's the first time I've ever heard of this possibility. Does anyone know what the space is between the bottom of the pickup, and the bottom of the pan?

If it's that close (less than, let's say, 1/8"), I'd think that adding a 1/2" shim between the two would cause a little problem bolting up the oil pan. Something would have to give, either the bottom of the pan would flex, which I highly doubt, or the pickup tube would bend laterally. If there's even a 1/16" gap, I can't imagine the pickup tube and the bottom of the pan ever coming together. The pan and the tube are pretty stout.

A lot of AMC oiling issues tend to be important to racing applications, but not for "normal" everyday use. I've had AMC V8's for quite a few years, now, and haven't had any oiling issues at all.

I'm in the process of completely rebuilding a 401, and I'm not doing any of the oil modifications.

Just my 2 cents.....



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Well took a step forward and a step backwards today.

Went to LSUtigers house and checked the 360 with a cracked block. Nothing on the oil pick up tub. Pulled the oil pan off his old 304 and low and behold a factory spacer!! Brady also had a new in the bag oil pick up tube that he jeep friend gifted me.







Going to put a dap of the right stuff gasket maker on its backside when I install it.

Also test fitted the alternator brackets today. Found out that I need to manufacture a little spacer. My polished water pump is cast a little different and a spacer is now needed. Look below.





Typing about it here makes me think the stud for the power steering pump rear bracket is going to need a spacer also.

Planning on getting on that tomorrow. They will both be small, not thinking more that a 1/2 insh. Going to just paint them up real nice and not worry about powder coating them. I did powder coat the larger one, but it is in a visible area.

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Found some shock bushing spacers. Going to cut them down to size. They are just about the same, little smaller, OD as the factory spacer used between the alt and the block.
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Well took a step forward and a step backwards today.

Went to LSUtigers house and checked the 360 with a cracked block. Nothing on the oil pick up tub. Pulled the oil pan off his old 304 and low and behold a factory spacer!! Brady also had a new in the bag oil pick up tube that he jeep friend gifted me.







Going to put a dap of the right stuff gasket maker on its backside when I install it.
I didn't realize that that little "bump" was a spacer. My pickup has that on it. Thanks for the info!

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