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post #16 of 47 Old 02-27-2014, 03:37 AM
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I'm in Portland, OR area and my howell passes smog. And it's continued to pass for about 17 years now. I have to have a cat also, but it was oem too.

I do not have a CARB sticker with the howell. Call and ask if they do have an approved kit. If they don't, see if Turbocity still offers their kit. It is more true to the GM OEM TBI system with knock sensor and timing retard control I think. It's been a long time, not really sure. They might be CARB certified.

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post #17 of 47 Old 02-27-2014, 06:39 AM
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Howell sells 2 different kits for the 258.

One is off-road only and sells for $1200. The other is CARB approved and sells for $1400.

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post #18 of 47 Old 02-27-2014, 10:33 AM
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Another forum member who is also active military recently purchased an 82 CJ (258, weber, T4) from a fellow Marine at Camp Pendleton. He was able to title and register it in his home state of Virginia. Maybe he can offer some advice...
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post #19 of 47 Old 02-27-2014, 10:50 AM
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Check the latest CA regulations. The date on the historical vehicle exemption moves quite often. Considering the Travis AFB article is from 2011. Typically the requirement gets locked in to a 25 year difference that would mean you might only have to worry about emissions for the next 10 months then your CJ becomes an antique! Something to look in to.

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I do know these new regs are enforced here at Edwards AFB, near by.
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post #20 of 47 Old 02-27-2014, 10:56 AM
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It seems the problem is not CA regs but rather the military base requirements. CA clearly states that non resident military members who do not register the vehicle in CA are exempt. Thats the way Im reading it...of course I am from Alabama......

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post #21 of 47 Old 02-27-2014, 11:00 AM
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From the California DMV link in post 2...

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If you are a nonresident member of the military stationed in California, you may operate a vehicle as long as it has valid license plates from your home state or the state from which you are regularly assigned. The vehicle must be registered to you or to your spouse, and it must be insured.

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I am retired military and I was stationed in California for a total of five years. As long as you are not a CA resident, you register your vehicle in your homestate and have insurance, you are exempt from smog. Whatever you do, do NOT switch your insurance over to CA, your prices will double or triple. I made this mistake, when a State Farm agent in Monterey told me that my costs would be cheaper, if I switched over from Colorado; it tripled and I was unable to switch back to Colorado, because I was no longer living there.

IF, for some insane reason, you decide to register in CA and do the Howell TBI, know that California exempts military members from the Ad Valorem tax, which is a tax based on the blue book value of the vehicle that you would have to pay when you register it, but they will not tell you that you are exempt, unless you ask. I found that out the hard way too.

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post #23 of 47 Old 02-27-2014, 11:19 AM
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From link provided by Lumpy

"TRAVIS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. -- Travis- civilian and military employees, who drive privately owned, out-of-state registered vehicles on base are required to show proof that the vehicle has passed the California enhanced smog check and obtain a base decal for each vehicle."

Not sure which base your going to, may want to go direct with their pass/registration folks. The exception would be if you live off base and dont plan on driving it to work.

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dmicgrif,

A couple things. I'm also on active duty but in the Army, I'm gussing you are in the Marines or Navy since you're going from Hawii to Cali. Most all Army bases have gone away from Decals to save money so maybe thats true in Cali. Also the best way to get out of it would be to get your folks to register it in VA and send you the plates. I was also a VA resident and kept my vehicles there most of my career but switched a couple years ago cause i was tired of paying taxes to a state i didn't plan on returning too. As a military member you are authrized to keep your home of record as your plates and license. Switch back to VA and your property tax on a 20 y/o vehicle will be little to nothing. Probably cheaper then trying to make your jeep pass the smog test.

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Wow, what a SNAFU that is. I wonder if Kali breaks into 6 states as is being discussed if the normal people can make normal laws in the new substates?

Worst case scenario you could put it in storage, drive some econobox until you get reassigned to a free state.

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You said you're going to San Fran, so you have to be Navy, correct? Is Treasure Island still open? Travis is in Fairfield, not SF.

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post #27 of 47 Old 02-27-2014, 12:31 PM
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I just put the Travis AFB in there as a reference. Not sure where the OP is going.
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COAST GUARD. I really want to do the EFI system. with the perks that it brings it should make the jeep run better and longer.
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You said you're going to San Fran, so you have to be Navy, correct? Is Treasure Island still open? Travis is in Fairfield, not SF.
Could be Alameda NAS also, if it still exists. Marines guard all naval installations. A buddy of mine, also a Marine, spent a year and a half in Alameda on barracks duty.

Anybody know when California is supposed to fall into the ocean?

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post #30 of 47 Old 02-27-2014, 12:50 PM
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keep it registered and tagged based off your home of record and your good to go. Just dont claim California as your home of record. I do not think California can subject an out of state vehicle to their emissions laws. http://www.dmv.org/ca-california/military-drivers/
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