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post #1 of 20 Old 09-20-2012, 10:07 PM Thread Starter
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mehaaaa all that work - dauntless crapin oil

Well as some of you know, I just spent more than i planned and way more time than I wanted installing a 1971 v6 Dauntless into my 64 cj5.

I had run the engine briefly prior to the project and had been told it was "GOOD TO GO" as far as the engine was concerned before I bought the jeep it was in.

well - it was smoking after it was good and warmed up - I figured it was stupidity on my part as I had poured oil over the rockers since I had the valve covers off - oil defiantly got into some of the cylinders - but not this much.

To give you an idea, the custodian @ school asked me if I was fogging for sketers this morning

I was thinking valve seals since the breather is clear and the PVC is new - well lets say I was hoping.

well, get this......Valve seals are not available - according to NAPA or any searching I have done on line.

Then I thought about something I read... the odd fire is just a v8 with 2 cylinders lopped off...so Buick V8 valve seals from 1971 should work....????

I also read that Marvels mystery oil works wonders - thou I always thought of the stuff as snake oil. But since I read claims of oil rings being freed up and lifters being freed up - smoking engines not smoking anymore - who cares 5 bucks. You never know - with this stuff I might even walk on water.

Obviously the thread title gives it away - she's not just smokin n chokin - after the marvels automatic transmission fluid (that's what it looks like)- I have oil leaking out the exhaust pipe - just Fking greaaat~!

most likely going after a complete engine overhaul - I suspect the rings are burnt, nothing blows oil like this and suddenly stops - so I will smoke a few more days and then pull the trigger - back out she will come

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post #2 of 20 Old 02-03-2013, 07:25 PM Thread Starter
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pulled the engine a few days after this post then it became a hose hanger, crap holder and generally buried in the garage. I got every excuse -a Senior Vasity soccer season, swim season, hunting season - bla bla bla. ( I did score a nice 6ptr)

Finally tore into her this past weekend and found # 3 had snapped the intake push rod, #6 had an exhaust push rod bent almost snapped.

the full rebuild is about to begin - but the funding I had lined up just evaporated, will press on
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I might know where there's one in good shape if you want another. A friend had it a few months ago. It had an Offy intake on it and some other good stuff. Might be a good deal, he has no use for it.

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I might know where there's one in good shape if you want another. A friend had it a few months ago. It had an Offy intake on it and some other good stuff. Might be a good deal, he has no use for it.
send me the info please - can't hurt - i currently have a pile a pieces, it's only money
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Oh well. He sold it in December. You might consider a junkyard 231. It'd probably be cheaper than a re-build and a lot more power.

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How would a 231 have more power than a 225? The slight increase in displacement won't make much difference.

IME push rods bend due to over-revving, or when the valves freeze in the head. Have you had the heads off yet? I'd hold out some hope that I could fix it up, but I'd want to inspect everything closely.

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How would a 231 have more power than a 225? The slight increase in displacement won't make much difference.

IME push rods bend due to over-revving, or when the valves freeze in the head. Have you had the heads off yet? I'd hold out some hope that I could fix it up, but I'd want to inspect everything closely.
It's not the displacement, but heads that flow way better. They were called hi-port heads when the 231s first came out.

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Welp - waitin on the postman - parts are ordered and the reconstruction thou long delayed will soon begin

push rods, rings, gaskets, bearings - check!

gotta clean the build area
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Get to work.....I don't have 225 parts laying around any more.

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Any competent machine shop should be able to rework the heads. This may include machining the valve guide boss to accept a different valve stem seal.

John knurling valve guides really dosent help the oil control as much as displacing metal to get the valve guide back to OEM spec.
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unbelievably - I wrestled with a wood spliter and lost - still have all my didgets - but the right thumb is going to be in a splint for the next 6 weeks - surgeon says I should regain full use and there is a good chance a nail will grow back

going to try to move ahead - but with one hand its going to be difficult
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Thumb outta splint - get to keep thmb

Christmas vacation has been productive
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Thumb outta splint - get to keep thmb

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Great little video! The engine look fabulous! By the way, was the thumb in the "thumbs up" the one you got to keep?
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Great little video! The engine look fabulous! By the way, was the thumb in the "thumbs up" the one you got to keep?
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YES IT WAS!
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