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Making Battery/Starter Cables Correctly...
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LINKS FOR TOOLS & PARTS.
TOOLS. Cable Lug Hammer Crimper, Fastenal p/n 0844004, $12.50 http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=0844004 ................................................ Cable Lug Hammer Crimper, Fastenal p/n 0717149, $54.89 http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=0717149 .................................................. .... Cable Lug Compound Crimper, Fastenal p/n 0715837, $350.48 http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=0715837 .................................................. .... Powered Crimping Tool, Fastenal p/n 0716741, $1,488.84 http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=0716741 .................................................. Powered Crimping Tool, Fastenal p/n 0716756, $4,268.08 http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=0716756 .................................................. Cable Stripping Tool, Fastenal p/n 0717142, $36.43 http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=0717142 .................................................. ... Heat Gun For Heat Shrink, Fastenal p/n 0713794, $43.94 http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=0713794 .................................................. ... Cable Cutters, (Channel Lock) Fastenal p/n 02558240347, $27.93 http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=02558240347 --------------------------------------------------
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Running On Empty...
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PARTS, Consumables.
Heat Shrink Tubing, http://www.fastenal.com/web/products.ex?N=999601362&Nty=0 48" lengths (that's 4 Feet for you Heep'ers!) Fastenal Book, 0.30" ID, p/n 0705417 Black, $26.80, p/n 0714600 Red, $18.96 0.40" ID, p/n 0705418 Black, $27.93, p/n 0714601 Red, $18.96 0.80" ID, p/n 0705419 Black, $26.29 p/n 0714602 Red, $18.96 1.10" ID, p/n 0705420 Black, $30.18 p/n 0714603 Red, $23.15 1.50" ID, p/n 0705421 Black, $40.63 Ea. 2.00" ID, p/n 0705422 Black, $54.22 Ea. ................................. Straight, Crimp Type Battery Terminals. (there are 90°, Flag Terminals, ect. available other than 'Straight') Positive, 2/0 Gauge, Straight, $4.74Ea. Fastenal p/n 0715672 Negative, 2/0 Gauge, Straight, $4.74 Ea. Fastenal p/n 0715671 Positive, 1/0 Gauge, Straight, $4.74 Ea. Fastenal p/n 0715670 Negative, 1/0 Gauge, Straight, $4.74 Ea. Fastenal p/n 0715669 Positive, 1 Gauge, Straight, $4.65 Ea. Fastenal p/n 0715668 Negative, 1 Gauge, Straight, $4.65 Ea. Fastenal p/n 0715667 Positive, 2 Gauge, Straight, $4.65 Ea. Fastenal p/n 0715666 Negative, 2 Gauge, Straight, $4.65 Ea. Fastenal p/n 0715665 Positive, 4 Gauge, Straight, $4.65 Ea. Fastenal p/n 0715664 Negative, 4 Gauge, Straight, $4.65 Ea. Fastenal p/n 0715663 For a Cleaner Install, You can also order 90° Termianls, to the LEFT or RIGHT, LEFT, RIGHT, And if you are going to connect the grounds together, I suggest a 'FLAG' connector, AND, For those of you doing 'Add Ons' like stereos, Communications Radios, Inverters, Welding From Your Batteries, I suggest something like this for connections for all that stuff... Heavy 'Eye' or 'Ring' terminals are pretty hard to find sometimes... Here are the ones that are heavy enough for ANYTHING you might want to do, And REMEMBER, these are STACKABLE, you can connect two or three to the same terminal, if the bolt holding them together is long enough! .............................................. Plain old tubing 'Ring' or 'Eye' terminals, Now remember, anyone with copper tubing can make a connector like this at home for cheap!... BUT, If you are buying them, the size of the eye hole is an issue! 5/16" (shown) is the most common electrical connector size on your vehicle... The starter relay, starter, ect. will all accept the 5/16" hole connector shown. ---------------------------------- SOLDER! Sliver Bearing, Rosin Core, intended for ELECTRICAL WORK, Not that old, cheap plumbing solder! The best I've used that is commonly available is from Radio Shack, p/n 64-013. You may have to double it up three or four times to make it easy for the big cables, but the fine strand solder is PERFECT for smaller terminals when you are chasing the 'Electrical Bugs' out of your 'Heep'! http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062717 
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03-17-2009, 10:05 PM
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1980 CJ7
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I like this thread, thanks. I tried today to find someone to make some cables for me and not many do this anymore! The local parts stores (even the good ones!) don't do it any more, nor do the NAPA stores in the area. The West Marine told me I could make them at their store but that they could not. I'll go check them out and see what type of stuff they have.
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03-17-2009, 10:48 PM
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1981 CJ7
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I vote for Article status, or at least a sticky!
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03-18-2009, 05:16 AM
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Senior Member
1981 CJ5
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Katy, Texas 77493, Katy, Texas
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Terminal Hammer Crimper..
Last year I added Solar Panels to my Toy Hauler... I used a bunch of welding lead in the wiring of 4- 6 volts batteries... These hammer crimpers work great if you have a normal hydraulic press... You get a smooth very professional crimp.. If you don't have a press, you can use a good vise.. I build all my battery cables now.... Here is a shot of some of the crimps...
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03-18-2009, 08:24 AM
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1980 CJ7
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West Marine is way too expensive!!!
OK, I have a press so I might get one of the hammer crimpers and go after it. I did find alot of variance on cable - Airgas has a 4 welding wire 25' for 23$ or so. Would this be ok?
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03-18-2009, 08:33 AM
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Off Road Forever
1986 CJ7
Join Date: Nov 2007
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03-18-2009, 08:38 AM
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1986 CJ7
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Jeep Hammer
First let me say I like your write ups, very easy to follow. When I first bought my jeep, I did not want a "normal" battery cable as they corrode way to easy and the cables are not protected. What I did was buy a set of cables with factory crimp eyelets on both sides then purchased marine terminals with a wing nut connection. Would you see anything negative about this set up? Thanks http://s613.photobucket.com/albums/tt215/ibgrumpy_renegade/Original%20Jeep%20Photos/?action=view¤t=DSC_0007.jpg |
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03-18-2009, 09:25 AM
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03-18-2009, 10:53 AM
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REMEMBER, 'Free' internet information is worth EXACTLY what you paid for it! LINK:Dual Battery Diagrams & Explanations. LINK:Winch, Welding, 'Lend Power' Project, LINK:Water Proofing Ignition, Hubs, Ect., LINK:BSERK's Winch Plate, LINK:AMC V-8 Front Cover Recondition, LINK:How An Ignition Works, LINK:Ignition Swaps '77 Older Jeeps, LINK:'78-'90 Jeep Ignition Upgrades, |
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03-18-2009, 10:56 AM
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So a part number would be counter-productive since I don't know what size cables you all are going to use... Remember, Two wires will fit in one terminal just as easy as one if you want to power more than one accessory!
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REMEMBER, 'Free' internet information is worth EXACTLY what you paid for it! LINK:Dual Battery Diagrams & Explanations. LINK:Winch, Welding, 'Lend Power' Project, LINK:Water Proofing Ignition, Hubs, Ect., LINK:BSERK's Winch Plate, LINK:AMC V-8 Front Cover Recondition, LINK:How An Ignition Works, LINK:Ignition Swaps '77 Older Jeeps, LINK:'78-'90 Jeep Ignition Upgrades, |
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03-18-2009, 10:56 AM
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1980 CJ7
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so I guess that is good! I would also be interested in the fastenal numbers for the terminals someone posted above - I looked through their catalog for a while and couldn't find them!
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03-18-2009, 10:57 AM
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More connections means more connection resistance, but adding ONE extra connection to the circuit shouldn't hurt much...
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REMEMBER, 'Free' internet information is worth EXACTLY what you paid for it! LINK:Dual Battery Diagrams & Explanations. LINK:Winch, Welding, 'Lend Power' Project, LINK:Water Proofing Ignition, Hubs, Ect., LINK:BSERK's Winch Plate, LINK:AMC V-8 Front Cover Recondition, LINK:How An Ignition Works, LINK:Ignition Swaps '77 Older Jeeps, LINK:'78-'90 Jeep Ignition Upgrades, |
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03-18-2009, 11:01 AM
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1980 CJ7
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Any part number would be helpful so I could find the others. Do you mean that I could buy a terminal for 1 guage (or larger) and then put in 2 4 guage wires? (one to starter, one to alternator) or something?
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03-18-2009, 11:16 AM
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No FunHaters Allowed!
1985 CJ7
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I'd probably be going with 1ga welding cable most likely since we have a spool of it readily available at work and they could care less if I took a few feet off it. Its been a while since i set foot in fastenal but most of this stuff should be in the same general area I would imagine...
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