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Unread 09-08-2007, 10:07 PM   #1
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Well I just came home from a party and was about 2 miles from the house when my Jeep shut off went to turn it on and it shut off again, turned my lights out and she started right up. Well this wouldnt be so bad if I was on an old country road, but if you know anything about Savannah you know the Abercorn St. is no place to be stalled out with no headlights on a Friday night . Anyway what would cause this to happen.

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Unread 09-09-2007, 12:55 PM   #2
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Could be a coincidence... they aren't on directly related circuits.

How would you describe the "health" of the crank of the engine when the lights were on and it would not start? The only thing I can think of off the top of my head is that the battery you've got isn't doing so well and the lights were drawing just enough amperage to help kill the crank...
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Unread 09-09-2007, 05:51 PM   #3
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It always cranks really well all the time. The battery is pretty new and so i s the alternator I am really stumped on this and really aggrevated that I cant drive my baby for longer than 10 min. at night
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Unread 09-09-2007, 05:56 PM   #4
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It always cranks really well all the time. The battery is pretty new and so i s the alternator I am really stumped on this and really aggrevated that I cant drive my baby for longer than 10 min. at night
just because the alt is fairly new, doesn't mean it is any good. I recently replaced three brand new not rebuilt alts from a large retailer before I got one that would actually charge over 12.9vdc
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Unread 09-09-2007, 07:40 PM   #5
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the reason i dont think its the battery is because it used to do it only when my dim lights were on then i would turn my brights on and it would run fine. but last night it would not run with any lights on.
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Unread 09-10-2007, 03:32 AM   #6
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just for giggles, could you turn your headlamps on before you try to crank the engine, and then see if the headlamps dim or simply die altogether when you crank the engine? If the battery can support the headlamps while cranking, that kind of blows my first guess out of the water, but it seems like a pretty straightforward current deficit. Headlamps and ignition aren't totally unrelated (it is in the same vehicle right?!? ), but barring any gremlins or a total wiring catastrophe (i.e. headlamp switch fails and somehow cooks dash wiring including ignition switch ) there shouldn't be a mission critical association between the two circuits.

The most obvious thing they have in common is that they are both consuming current, which is why I started there. If your charging circuit can't support both of them at the same time, I would expect it to do roughly what you're explaining is happening. I mean, you can drive it all day without problems? Only when you turn the lights on? strange... it would good of you to verify a healthy 14.7v when the vehicle is idling and then watch the meter while someone else turns on the headlamps... wonder if it will nosedive and then die on you? would be interesting to see....
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Unread 09-10-2007, 04:53 AM   #7
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thanks ill try the voltage test to see what its doing. Hopefully thats it. It does look like a birdsnest under the hood because I think the PO want to hook up an electric skillet and a "daquiri maker" and i dont know if maybe some wires touching are causing a dead short.
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