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post #61 of 85 Old 05-14-2013, 07:48 PM Thread Starter
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after seeing that one side view thats an early 46

Here is what I pulled off the data plate.

CJ2a 171232

So that would make it a '48 right.

Based on this it is. That is if I'm reading it right. Might have to have the kids come over and look at the data plate.

http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/cj...opic13957.html







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post #62 of 85 Old 05-15-2013, 09:03 AM
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Yep, that's the Pontiac slant 4. So did the previous owner tell you that it was a Scout?

That transmission is a T98, the precursor to the T18. It's bulletproof, just a bit noisier than the t18 as it has straight cut gears instead of helical. Tcase is a Dana 18.
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post #63 of 85 Old 05-15-2013, 09:51 AM
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Just read through your thread rollbar, nice find. That thing is gunna be sweet! Holy moley I wouldn't know where to begin though! Talk about some history, I bet this Jeep has got some!
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post #64 of 85 Old 05-15-2013, 10:14 AM Thread Starter
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Yep, that's the Pontiac slant 4. So did the previous owner tell you that it was a Scout?

That transmission is a T98, the precursor to the T18. It's bulletproof, just a bit noisier than the t18 as it has straight cut gears instead of helical. Tcase is a Dana 18.
No the PO has died. The guy across the street (Owns a garage) was going to scrap it. Been there 1.5yrs and I thought it was his until my lovely wife said to drive in and ask

No title but we can apply for an abandon title and he will sign whatever paper work to that effect (he has had it about 4yrs I think). He is the one who got it from the PO but the wife couldn't find the title. I do have a bill of sale and everything is legit.

He is also going to get the bell housing if he can find it.

One heck of a motor and has the 4bbl intake so it will be fine for now. Still might get the buick v6 for later but i've always liked the 4banger in those Jeeps.

Thanks for the info CSP, everyone was telling me the tranny was a T18.

Might just swap that in the scrammy but I don't feel like shifting all day (Been doing it since i was 9yrs old.

Thanks again,
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post #65 of 85 Old 05-15-2013, 10:22 AM Thread Starter
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Just read through your thread rollbar, nice find. That thing is gunna be sweet! Holy moley I wouldn't know where to begin though! Talk about some history, I bet this Jeep has got some!
Ya it needs all the parts except the drivetrain

Piece by piece because it will cost.

The PO cut the floor out, so that is $500.00 from Kaiser (wil look else where).

Need everything and might have found a steering box yesterday. But when you think of it, replacing everything will basically make it a new Jeep/parts.

I want to keep it as original as I can (except motor etc) w/in reason. It will be a DDriver and a wheeler, no garage queen. They were built for that stuff and might as well use it, then let the kids fix it

To start I have to do the frame, then tub, that is the start. The axles look like they have been gone through so that should not be an issue.

I asked the kids, which one wants the Jeep (my youngest wants the CJ8) and all but my youngest said, we will let you know when it's finished but they were just kidding. Guess who is gonna help me since I ahve been working on their's etc.

Family project.

P.S. And they know never to sell any of them


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post #66 of 85 Old 05-15-2013, 10:59 AM
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TOoooooooooooooooo many projects. Three Cj's and a J-10

Tell me about it! wagoneer, Willys truck, m35 and now im trying to fix up a grand cherokee to make some cash to buy a 1967 Cj5. Its pure addiction.
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post #67 of 85 Old 05-15-2013, 11:06 AM Thread Starter
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Its pure addiction.
I think I need to start a group-Jeepers Anonymous. All my friends tell me I'm nutzzzzzz.

Probably all of us on this forum

My name is Jim, and I have a problem


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post #68 of 85 Old 05-15-2013, 11:06 AM
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If it were me, I think I'd set it aside and wait for another CJ2/3 to pop up to rob the drive train/frame/etc. at a bargain price.

"Work hard, rock hard, eat hard, sleep hard, grow big, wear glasses if you need 'em."
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post #69 of 85 Old 05-15-2013, 11:11 AM Thread Starter
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If it were me, I think I'd set it aside and wait for another CJ2/3 to pop up to rob the drive train/frame/etc. at a bargain price.
U R probably right, but ...............

My name is Jim, and I have a problem

But oh the stories the kids can tell later on in life on how we built it from a tub only.


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I guess some were right after all.

OK the grill should be 10.25" from the front bumper from what I am told. Here are the results. So it seems the frame is not correct. Now what?

From front edge of bumper:


If it was measured from frame:


16" from bumper






Rear of frame sticking past tub:


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Unless you're going for a 100% factory restoration I wouldn't sweat it. You can always cut extra length off if you don't like it sticking out that far. It sure looks around 10" in your first picture of the measurement though. Not sure what the 16" is supposed to demonstrate.
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post #72 of 85 Old 05-15-2013, 04:45 PM Thread Starter
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That is what I was thinking. Setting the tub right to the drivetrain. So I need to pull the tub, set the drivetrain, then set the tub to see where it ends up.

Looks like the front spring perch is back from the front of the frame and the rear perches are at the back of the frame.

Might even be a CJ5 frame or 3B, but anyway, at least it has a frame and it is strong.

Well the name isn't Peach anymore - It's Frankenstein

Thanks for the help CSP/Everyone,
Jim

Stay tuned.


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post #73 of 85 Old 05-15-2013, 06:07 PM Thread Starter
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Measured the Wheelbase = 80"

Front spring length, bolt to bolt = 36"

Rear spring length, bolt to bolt = 46"

Spring width = 1 3/4"

Frame length from front frame end to rear frame end = 128.5

Frame width, front = 29"

Frame width, rear = 29.5

So, what frame is this ?

Thanks,
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CJ5 ? (from a recommendation)

http://www.cj3a.info/tech/3aframe.pdf


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post #75 of 85 Old 05-16-2013, 12:30 PM Thread Starter
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Found a rolling '48 chassis

Also I found this on eBay but the seller is not 100% sure it is for the Slant 4, neither and I.

Can someone look and help me out here-there is a picture w/some numbers on it.

Also, I'm not sure Novak has an adapter for this from the T98 to the Tempest 389.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251272362346...84.m1438.l2649

Thanks for the help,
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