[jeepsterjc]

Hi guys,

I've sold off my YJ with the LT1 engine and megasquirted TPI on top to help finance my Scrambler build.I'll start off to answer you first question- "Why TJ Tech Forum?" <edit>Moved now to CJ Forum</edit> Well, the hybrid Scrambler frame I had throttledowncustoms.com build for me is a hybrid with 4 corner coils and control arms- TJ style.

<edit>June 16th/2011- thread moved to CJ forum where the real round headlights live</edit>

I have a Aqualu Scrambler tub being delivered to my home tomorrow for it. With the rolling CJ7 I have my eye on I'll turn it into a CJ7/8 one-off.
Then

Now


I've had the replacement frame setup to take a 20 gal poly YJ tank just rear of the rear axle (CJ7 style) rather than use a deeper Scrambler poly tank between the last two members.

The 8 control arm mounts match TJs. I'll be using ironman4x4fab solid arms. [EDIT] Now Currie double Johnny Jointed [/EDIT]

OK- First really big question. Axles? I want to use Dana 60s front and rear. I have an NP205 Chevy pass drop tcase. I'll look for a Chevy style D60 for the pass side pumpkin.

What are the drawbacks if I just use full width axles? Any thoughts appreciated. [EDIT]Used full width with H2 rims. They have 5.5 inches backspacing)[/EDIT]

Edited Dec 2010 For new readers. The first 10 to 15 pages are me asking lots of questions... and getting very great answers

1. Went with 1 Tons- Ford '95 Dana 60 front and Sterling 1 Ton rear. It took months of deliberation to settle on what axles to use. After months of searching I found these two trucks and bought them both. Both 1 tons. : Donor truck and new daily driver
2. Picked up a sweet 5.0: Engine- Explorer 5.0 It wasn't this engine- bait and switch but got everything in the end. Good poser pic though, eh?
3. Then the carnage began: Let's strip that baby down!
4. Had the axles and knew where I was going with tires- BIG!So off to eBay I went for rims. I took another month or more figuring out if 17s or super cheap 16.5s were the way to go: I went with H2s that would need to get machined out for the larger Ford hubs- mine took a fair bit of work to do compared to others... I bought 17's so I could go with more back-spacing.H2 rims:
5. Then the rest was just good old hard work for a while: Axle work Those axles got sandblasted 3 times. Man that was plenty of work!
   
6. I bought Currie brackets. They took some grinding but were easier to use than building my own. I did have to do something different though with the front driver-side myself that turned out nicely.A bit of custom brackets work.
7. Then a certified welder and tons and tons of pre-heating then a final third sandblasting: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/jims-new-hybrid-scrambler-build-tons-questions-coming-976744/index29.html#post9960583
   
8. And more axle work: http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/jims-new-hybrid-scrambler-build-tons-questions-coming-976744/index30.html#post9982530
9. I basically spent 3 months through the summer on and off working on the geometry.
   
10. Finally tires!! Woohoo!! 40" Goodyear MTRs with Kevlar
    
11. Then brakes: Jim's brake setup Finally able to see how things fit in the rim.
12. Then finally building a vehicle begins: Real building work!! And I get to see if all of my measuring an eye-ball engineering really allowed things to fit without rubbing. NO RUBBING!!
13. Poser shots! poser
14. Then brake bracket design and mock-up: Brake mock-up still happening.
    
    
    
    
    
    
15. Want to use long monotubes in as close to zero lift as possible. Built my own bar-pin mounts and located them outward of the mounting plate on the frame and axle to effectively stretch the possible shock stroke: Shock bar pins.
    
    
    
16. Finished the rear brakes- GM 3/4 ton 4x4 front calipers on the rear with E350 Frod cargo van disks: Rear brakes done.
17. Finished the front brakes- stock Ford 1 ton calipers and disks: Front brakes done.
18. 1 ton power brake capabilities for 40" rubber. Did a ton of shopping and looking around then found some smoking hot deals: Settled on dual diaphram booster and Vette master cylinder using YJ mounting bracket.
19. Assembled those hot deals to see what fit: Parts assembled.
20. De-greased, bead blasted old bracket, primed and painted everything: Parts together- waiting for chrome MC cover....
    
    Here's where I'm at now- June 16th, 2011:
    Building crossmembers and setting the driveline in place: Crossmembers
    
    
    

[element54]

Wow, it doesn't even have an engine and it is already dripping oil.

Seriously though, it sounds like you are going to have a fun time building this thing up. I won't have much constructive to say but I'll definitely enjoy crawling this thread and learning through your experience.

Good luck with the build.

[lumpster]

i cant wait to see this build, its my dream jeep!! What drivetrain?

[never monday]

what drivetrain and tire combo will determine your axles

[jeepsterjc]

Originally Posted by element54

Wow, it doesn't even have an engine and it is already dripping oil.

Seriously though, it sounds like you are going to have a fun time building this thing up. I won't have much constructive to say but I'll definitely enjoy crawling this thread and learning through your experience.

Good luck with the build.

OMG I'm laughing Yep- story of my happy life!

<edit> September 17/2011
I've got the engine in position and rolled it out for a couple of poser shots:





At this point I'm building a steering box relocation mount and about to modify the driver side shock and coil tower for better engine positioning.

Also- I began work on the design of an engine-mount/cradle:



and it has gone through a few iterations...



and finally this:







I should have this wrapped up pretty soon and be finished with the steering relocation box as well before the New Year... hopefully.
</edit>

[jeepsterjc]

Originally Posted by never monday

what drivetrain and tire combo will determine your axles

Yes- ok here goes:

Chevy small block 327 this time with the TPI on top of it- I'm only going for 300 hp.

700R4 on my slab waiting for a new output shaft. Also, 4.10s are planned.

Chevy NP205 without a doubler for now- I know- only 2:1 low range! I'll live with it as is for a bit.

Maybe 35s later, but for now BFG 33 ATs.

I figure I may as well do the Dana 60s as I only have one life to play. May as well go big, and if I have to live with a low pinion front Dana 60, well, it won't kill me!

[never monday]

the 700R4 is going to be a pisser to get a driveshaft around from what I understand. Are you married to the pass drop 205? would you consider a 300?

for 33's or 35's I wouldn't mess with 60's. 44/9 would be a better set up.

[jeepsterjc]

Originally Posted by never monday

the 700R4 is going to be a pisser to get a driveshaft around from what I understand. Are you married to the pass drop 205? would you consider a 300?

for 33's or 35's I wouldn't mess with 60's. 44/9 would be a better set up.

Isn't the 300 a pass drop?

[jeepsterjc]

Originally Posted by never monday

the 700R4 is going to be a pisser to get a driveshaft around from what I understand. Are you married to the pass drop 205? would you consider a 300?

for 33's or 35's I wouldn't mess with 60's. 44/9 would be a better set up.

My T350 is pretty much the same shape as the 700. It is only a titch longer than the t350.

[RubiconRazorbac]

Subscribed & crawled. This is gonna be a fun one!

[EaglesSJ]

Originally Posted by jeepsterjc

Yes- ok here goes:

Chevy small block 327 this time with the TPI on top of it- I'm only going for 300 hp.

700R4 on my slab waiting for a new output shaft. Also, 4.10s are planned.

Chevy NP205 without a doubler for now- I know- only 2:1 low range! I'll live with it as is for a bit.

Maybe 35s later, but for now BFG 33 ATs.

I figure I may as well do the Dana 60s as I only have one life to play. May as well go big, and if I have to live with a low pinion front Dana 60, well, it won't kill me!

Isnt 33s on a dana 60 pretty much gonna give you like no ground clearance at all? if youre never gonna go over 35s why not just put in a set of 44s?

[Apex]

Originally Posted by EaglesSJ

Isnt 33s on a dana 60 pretty much gonna give you like no ground clearance at all? if youre never gonna go over 35s why not just put in a set of 44s?

44s with chromo shafts incase 37s happen

[jeepsterjc]

Originally Posted by EaglesSJ

Isnt 33s on a dana 60 pretty much gonna give you like no ground clearance at all? if youre never gonna go over 35s why not just put in a set of 44s?

How much ground clearance will be lost going from a D35 to D60?? Never seen one. OK, maybe I have- not to sound dumb, but i'm not doing that sort of wheeling.

[lumpster]

you can have the same ground clearance with a D60 as you do with a D35, but it will cost you a rockjock d60 housing.

[jeepsterjc]

Originally Posted by lumpster

you can have the same ground clearance with a D60 as you do with a D35, but it will cost you a rockjock d60 housing.

I can just do this.

Shaving a Dana 60 Housing for Clearance

Ground clearance issue resolved. I guess I just want to see that massive set of axles under there. This could be a really nice build.