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post #1381 of 3887 Old 04-30-2011, 07:22 AM
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Hey Jim... you taught me ANOTHER trick! Pretty smooth operation you got there buddy. I have a similar dent in my tailgate... and hood, and quarter panel, and fender! I'll see if I can use the leverage method to pull them.

I can't wait to see the paint on something! I think I would use the hardener, though. You don't want soft paint, ever! OD green isn't really going to shine, and a deer that looks at it won't understand what he is seeing anyway.


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post #1382 of 3887 Old 04-30-2011, 10:49 AM
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The paint goes a lot farther than the primer. Just don't try to get it on all in one coat. Start at the top, and work your way down spraying horizontally.

Then on the second coat I move verticaly.

I get everything done with two coats, then I wait a while, and hit a quick third coat paying particular attention to missed areas. You need lots of lighting for this. I can get better coverage with natural lighting, but there are flourecent bulbs that mimic it.

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I spray the hardest areas first, so it makes it easier to not accidentally touch your wet paint while trying to contort your body to get to the hard places. If you spray those areas first, and you touch the fender or something, no big deal because it wasn't painted yet. If that makes sense...
Listen to this good advice, This man knows what he is talking about! Excellent tip!

As to denting the paint with a fingernail; I'm not familiar with that brand but I would say that that situation is an aberration and not the norm.

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Years ago I remember people adding hardener to their enamel and I recall someone saying their reason was that if needed, they could later touch up the paint with lacquer whereas with non hardened enamel, the paints would react. Or maybe whoever was repainting a section later would be using lacquer.

Is there any truth to this?
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The paint goes a lot farther than the primer. Just don't try to get it on all in one coat. Start at the top, and work your way down spraying horizontally.

Then on the second coat I move verticaly.

I get everything done with two coats, then I wait a while, and hit a quick third coat paying particular attention to missed areas. You need lots of lighting for this. I can get better coverage with natural lighting, but there are flourecent bulbs that mimic it.

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I spray the hardest areas first, so it makes it easier to not accidentally touch your wet paint while trying to contort your body to get to the hard places. If you spray those areas first, and you touch the fender or something, no big deal because it wasn't painted yet. If that makes sense...
That makes sense on starting at the top and also spraying hard to reach places. I will remember that!! Seems like a CJ tub ought to be easier to spray than other things, especially with it off the frame.

Thanks Eric.

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Hey Jim... you taught me ANOTHER trick! Pretty smooth operation you got there buddy. I have a similar dent in my tailgate... and hood, and quarter panel, and fender! I'll see if I can use the leverage method to pull them.

I can't wait to see the paint on something! I think I would use the hardener, though. You don't want soft paint, ever! OD green isn't really going to shine, and a deer that looks at it won't understand what he is seeing anyway.
We're old dogs Scott and we can learn a few new tricks. I have a feeling I'm not the originator of the washer idea though.

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Listen to this good advice, This man knows what he is talking about! Excellent tip!

As to denting the paint with a fingernail; I'm not familiar with that brand but I would say that that situation is an aberration and not the norm.
I believe he does. Well after seeing what he's painted I know he does. Thanks Larry. Actually I'm getting allot of very good tips, and glad of that.

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Years ago I remember people adding hardener to their enamel and I recall someone saying their reason was that if needed, they could later touch up the paint with lacquer whereas with non hardened enamel, the paints would react. Or maybe whoever was repainting a section later would be using lacquer.

Is there any truth to this?
Jeff hopefully somebody will answer that question besides me cause I don't know.
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Took some time today and finsihed taking the tub off the YJ that I bought a while back. After getting it off I found it's in much better shape than I had thought. There's some rust on the metal where the body mounts rubbed the paint off but nos so much that a sandblaster wouldn't clean it up. Also there's a spot between the sheet metal on the tub and the a-pillar on the driver's side that has some, this could very well be between the two layers and needs fixing if done right. There's also a little bondo just under the driver's door and to the back of the door opening. I don't see any rust inside the tub so I'm guessing this is a poorly fixed dent. It is cracked, too thick.

This would be a great replacement for somebody wanting a solution to a rusted CJ tub. It's for sale. It will be in the classified adds on here and craigslist. I've got one and don't have any use for another tub. What would you guys say it's worth? Also have the grille, dash and other odds and ends to sell.
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After working virtually all day trying to make Clay's glass tub fit I am ready to drive 16 hours to your house and pick up that beautiful tub! That looks really good Jim.

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Scott, wouldn't blame you a bit if you did go and get it. Four months ago, I may have made the trip myself.

Jim, I can only imagine how valuable a forklift can be.
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After working virtually all day trying to make Clay's glass tub fit I am ready to drive 16 hours to your house and pick up that beautiful tub! That looks really good Jim.
Hey we'd feed you real good once you got here. Hey I got an idea. We'll sit around veggin and eat fresh out of the oven chocolate chip cookies.

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Scott, wouldn't blame you a bit if you did go and get it. Four months ago, I may have made the trip myself.

Jim, I can only imagine how valuable a forklift can be.
The old forklift has been great to have. I paid $500.00 for it about 10 years ago and kept thinking I'd upgrade to a better one but this thing seems to have 9 lives!! So I keep using it.
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Scott, wouldn't blame you a bit if you did go and get it. Four months ago, I may have made the trip myself.

Jim, I can only imagine how valuable a forklift can be.
I'll pick you up on the way!!

Wish it was a 5 tub!

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Hey we'd feed you real good once you got here. Hey I got an idea. We'll sit around veggin and eat fresh out of the oven chocolate chip cookies.
If I brought Clay with me you would run us off!! It would be worth riding up there just for the cookies!

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I'll pick you up on the way!!

Wish it was a 5 tub!



If I brought Clay with me you would run us off!! It would be worth riding up there just for the cookies!
No way would I run you guys off!! Bring everybody. Swing by and get Jody and his wife too. My wife likes company to cook for. Oh and I could put Clay to work, I've got a bunch of welding that needs doing.

Besides you guys could help me get some things done.
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Wish it was a 5 tub!
You got an angle grinder with cut off wheels and a welder!!!!

... I guess I'm gonna have to fix that too…….

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I finally made up my mind and ordered some primer today. The guy at the parts store couldn't answer my questions as to whether the primer he sold would work with my OD green paint so I had been looking in TP Tools & Equipment, I keep the catalog on my desk, next to the bed, etc. you get the idea. Anyway I called them and they tell me the primer I need for going over the bare metal is Transtar 2 K 3in1 high build urethane primer. It's self-etching and also can be thinned and used as a sealer before painting. I also checked with the company I bought the paint from and they say it'll work with the paint they sell. So I think I've covered my bases.

Next will be to sandblast a few parts and spray the primer on and get along with the work at hand. I also got the hood out the other day and washed some of the dust and grime off it. It has the usual dents where someone let it fall against the windshield frame and also some rust on the front part that needs to be cut out and fixed. It's the same on both sides. Shouldn't be too hard to fix. Other than that it's in pretty good shape.
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Analysis Paralysis kill many an idea or thought...glad you are moving on and looking forward to the progress...

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Analysis Paralysis kill many an idea or thought...glad you are moving on and looking forward to the progress...
Never heard that before but that is exactly right!

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Analysis Paralysis kill many an idea or thought...glad you are moving on and looking forward to the progress...
You got that right Mike!!
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