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post #1981 of 3887 Old 11-10-2011, 09:59 AM
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Ha!! You guys ought to see my UPS guy. He's 6' 3 and I bet wieghs over 300 and the other day I had him try out my seat placement just to see if a large person could get in without a bunch of trouble. He fit great but after Scott said what he did it got me thinking that he was sitting in that seat with just tack welds holding. I rest my case.
OK then! Guess who else is likely to weld up his anchors the same as you?? Thank, Jim!

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post #1982 of 3887 Old 11-13-2011, 10:54 PM
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cage looks great Jim, I'm going to shop for a bender next week.
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Thanks guys. My cage is in the process of being tig welded today! My neighbor who is a certified welder and has a portable rig is making all the welds solid today. Allot of guys can really make some nice mig welds on tubing but I'm not one of them so I hired him to tig all of the joints. Makes for a much stronger weld too. Here's how they're looking so far. More pictures later.
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That is one pretty weld Jim. You're neighbor is good at what he does. I work with a bunch of welders, they mainly use a TIG welder because of all the aluminum we fabricate but not many of them can weld that nice.

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Moving ahead, Dude!! Looking great... So what ELSE you got going on? Collecting anymore roadkill??

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Thanks guys. My cage is in the process of being tig welded today! My neighbor who is a certified welder and has a portable rig is making all the welds solid today. Allot of guys can really make some nice mig welds on tubing but I'm not one of them so I hired him to tig all of the joints. Makes for a much stronger weld too. Here's how they're looking so far. More pictures later.
Hey JIM,

IMO Those welds should be in the text book of welding.

Nice to have talent right in your neighborhood.

A SUPER JOB there.

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That is one pretty weld Jim. You're neighbor is good at what he does. I work with a bunch of welders, they mainly use a TIG welder because of all the aluminum we fabricate but not many of them can weld that nice.
I've known him since he was born and he's always been top notch at everything he does. He went to tech school to learn the welding trade and has been with it since. Great thing about him too is that he's humble about it. A very good trait in my book.

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Moving ahead, Dude!! Looking great... So what ELSE you got going on? Collecting anymore roadkill??
I'm as excited about getting this cage welded as anything that I've done so far! He's still at it but should finish this evening.

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Hey JIM,

IMO Those welds should be in the text book of welding.

Nice to have talent right in your neighborhood.

A SUPER JOB there.
Thanks! He is doing a super job and I told him you said so.


Here's a little more of the welding. I'll have more later after he's done, don't want to get in his way.
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Those are good looking welds, done in the Heart of the USA.

Whats next on the agenda?

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I'm as excited about getting this cage welded as anything that I've done so far! He's still at it but should finish this evening.
You have a right to be excited about it. Clay and I are excited for you, and just a bit envious! How many hours do you have in the construction phase, Jim? I hope we can make something as nice as yours.

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Those are good looking welds, done in the Heart of the USA.

Whats next on the agenda?

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Thanks Bill. I'm going to let him read all of these comments in the thread at some point. To say that I'm pleased with the work he did for me is not enough. Yes USA!!!

I need to add a couple of tabs for the seat belts and this will be done. My next step is going to be to sit the cage back into the tub and bolt it down. My friend at the body shop has a porta power and said he'd push the area of the tub forward that was pushed back in the accident it went through. The tub will be coming off the frame before then too. I feel like working on the body work for a while now and have everything here to do so with, meaning not much money will need to be spent in doing so. That ought to keep me busy for a while.

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You have a right to be excited about it. Clay and I are excited for you, and just a bit envious! How many hours do you have in the construction phase, Jim? I hope we can make something as nice as yours.
Thanks Scott. Just guessing I'd say there's 40 hours in the cage, not counting all day today to weld it. If I had a bender with a ram on it the time could be cut down a good bit, pulling on that handle is tiring! Time spent in figuring everything out isn't in that either, that consumed allot of time. Time well spent though.

Scott you and Clay can do as good a job or better. After you get started you'll be surprised at how things come easier to you. Just like making the bends come out where you want, that is a technique you learn and there can be many ways to get to that point. What works for me may not work for you. Always take it slow and make sure what you're doing is what you really want. I bent my first main tube on this and had a feeling from the start it was wrong. And it was. The plywood pattern kept me from making that mistake again. Check your work as you go and if it goes to plan then it'll work.
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Here's some more pictures of the finished job. I added several braces in the corners to counter against the cage racking if it flips or rolls. I used 1 1/4 dom for all of them. I think they'll serve the purpose well. Also in the 4rth picture I'm pointing to an extra tube I added today. I felt like the main part of the cage needed another point to tie it to the mounting plates. It also reduces the chances of the tube the seats and the one brace that attach to of bending.

The last picture just shows what an outstanding job Jeremy did for me in the welding. If I ever start selling anything welded to you guys this is the quality I'd want going out the door. It sells itself.
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Jim,

Those welds look awesome! Cage came out outstanding!!! I see a tig coming my way in the future!

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Jim,

Those welds look awesome! Cage came out outstanding!!! I see a tig coming my way in the future!
Ditto, Jeremy. Maybe it's just because yours is the first cage I've seen from scratch, but I have to say it's the best engineered, straightest, squarest, most attractive (that means cool, btw!) bundle of tubes ever formed into something useful!! We are looking forward to building something, ANYthing out of tubing, but I know my purse is thin, so we can't have a lot of sacrificial steel. I was making some rough estimates in the shop this evening, and I came up with about 60' of tubing. We'll go with 1 1/2". I know we'll probably need more than that, but it's a good start. The local yard (according to Clay) sells it in 24' sticks for $50. I'm going to get 4 sticks to start. Are you going to get it dipped?

I gotta get a hold of Jeremy for a set of dash tie-ins.

I know I'm glad I'm not painting your cage!!

Jim, what do you think about the different kinds of pipe benders that are available? Yours has a metering surface that tells you when you reach your desired angle... correct? The plans you sent me doesn't have that feature, or I didn't catch it. The pipe benders at HF don't appear to have a metering device either. How important is it to have that scale?

BTW- I think your cage shrunk!!

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Beautiful job, Jim!

TIG is a slow welding process, and there are a lot of joints on your cage. That's a lot of TIG welding! Jeremy did a great job. You're lucky to know someone close by that could weld that for you. Welders like him are few and far between.

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