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Unread 01-03-2014, 10:19 AM   #46
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Well there are a lot of different types of snow so saying one is the same to drive in as another is not right.

My Prius can get thought 10" of fluffy snow with no problem but put some hard frozen slush were the track is wider than your jeeps and you end up bouncing back and forth in a light CJ. Even with a 800# snowplow on the front.

In fact, if there is fresh snow, Id rather drive through it than a clear icy tarmac.

To me, Tires make all the difference in the winter.
Now, if I could convert my CJ to be FWD in the winter, that would be awesome.

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Unread 01-03-2014, 10:37 AM   #47
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Loved my YJ in the snow when it was together, drift busting was a favorite past time.

My CJ is what goes with me to the annual snow run these days though. It has done better than TJ's on 40's.

One of the first Snofari's in Michigan before my winches and top. I was open/open that run too and I think it handled better than it does now locked.



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Unread 01-03-2014, 10:55 AM   #48
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Loved my YJ in the snow when it was together, drift busting was a favorite past time.

My CJ is what goes with me to the annual snow run these days though. It has done better than TJ's on 40's.

One of the first Snofari's in Michigan before my winches and top. I was open/open that run too and I think it handled better than it does now locked.
That's sweet! When and where are these....Snofari's? I too am in Michigan. Hoping to go some year.

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Unread 01-03-2014, 11:14 AM   #49
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That's sweet! When and where are these....Snofari's? I too am in Michigan. Hoping to go some year.

Dave in Muskegon
They are put on by SOFO of Michigan and are usually the third weekend in January. There is also Sno-Blind (different club) later in the year. They take place near West Branch MI.

Both require registration in Nov and usually sell out the first day or so.

Just one place for info.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/SnoFari/347539221666

https://www.facebook.com/pages/SnoBlind/337334585768
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Unread 01-03-2014, 11:19 AM   #50
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John Strenk is correct, different kinds of snow. I have driven in snow for 48 years and tires make more of a difference than some folks think. Back in the early to mid 70's I used to buy these retreads with a kind of square block tread, alternating. My boss plowed driveways while I was running the mechanic shop. He got the brand new truck and thought it was the best of the best. I got a call from him in the first storm, he was stuck and wondered if anyone was there at the shop with a 4x4. I fired up my 1972 Olds Delta 88 and headed out with those retreads on back. Pulled that truck out of the ditches 10-12 times that winter. I think the tread design and the softness of the rubber gave it much more gripping power.
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Unread 01-03-2014, 11:38 AM   #51
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They are put in by SOFO of Michigan and are usually the third weekend in January. There is also Sno-Blind later in the year. They take place near West Branch MI.

Both require registration in Nov and usually sell out the first day or so.

Just one place for info.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/SnoFari/347539221666

https://www.facebook.com/pages/SnoBlind/337334585768
Thanks! I'll be checking that out....

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Unread 01-03-2014, 11:44 AM   #52
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I cannot multi quote on mobile, so this post reflects the last few posts...

John, do that twin stick and modify the shift rails to give FWD in high range!

In that second pic of the Snofari, is that a '6 with a steel hardtop?

As for snow tread design, I have always wondered about the old block-tread "snow tire" design vs. the new modern designs. I know my BFG A/Ts are great in the snow, but most snow tires these days are smaller lugged tread designs. Look at the Blizzaks - very capable, would love to be able to afford a set for winter use for the wife and a decent set of all-season for other times. A lot of sipes to grip snow and ice, and also funnel away slush. Yet they used a more solid mud tire design back in the day with big solid lugs and open areas between them, a totally opposite direction!
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Unread 01-03-2014, 12:23 PM   #53
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John, do that twin stick and modify the shift rails to give FWD in high range!

In that second pic of the Snofari, is that a '6 with a steel hardtop?
No that is my 2A wearing a M38 Aluminum Arctic top. I damaged that top pretty bad last year and now have a MB hardtop on it.
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X3 on John Strenks' mentioning different kinds of snow. I understand the Sami (Lapplanders of Finland) have over 100 ways to describe snow.
Back when I was in the service I went to CWT at Brideport, Ca. and on motor marches the M151's and the bobtailed prime movers (M50 series) did the best on the that crusty snow as their contact patch was light enough to scurry on top without braking through to the soft stuff. The cargos, dumps and especially the truck wrecker would almost always break through and get stuck. Luckily the truck wrecker (M543A2C if I remember correctly) could always pull itself out.
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Unread 01-06-2014, 06:27 PM   #55
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Unread 01-07-2014, 03:14 AM   #56
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Another type of playing

Amen Brother...

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Unread 01-07-2014, 06:18 AM   #57
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My cj has a detroit rear and welded front. I think I would much rather have an open set of diffs for highway driving. This is just my second year driving it locked up. Ive been driving it with one hub locked(figured it would help with turning), I dont like that at all. I locked both hubs last night about a mile from home and it seemed to do ok. Gonna see how it works today.
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Unread 01-07-2014, 06:35 AM   #58
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My cj has a detroit rear and welded front. I think I would much rather have an open set of diffs for highway driving. This is just my second year driving it locked up. Ive been driving it with one hub locked(figured it would help with turning), I dont like that at all. I locked both hubs last night about a mile from home and it seemed to do ok. Gonna see how it works today.
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That's the reason I've decided to either go with selectable lockers, or keep mine open. I don't care for the way a locked CJ handles on pavement, at all.

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Tom, That's the reason I've decided to either go with selectable lockers, or keep mine open. I don't care for the way a locked CJ handles on pavement, at all. Matt
On the pavement in the snow? Or on the pavement all the time?

My cummins in certain snow conditions is not agreeable with me when turning in 4wd with open diff's.

In 4-6" at a stop light where I need to turn left or right immediately is a pain. The front end will bind and shake the truck.

More snow than that in the same condition it will not turn. The front pushes strait.

Its another reason I drive it in 2wd with weight in the bed and use 4wd only when needed

If I'm already moving the above problems are pretty much a non issue. But my commute to work involves 36 stoplights in 25 miles for one way I chose to go. Or its 31 miles with around 15 stop lights and stop signs but you are zig-zagging back country roads.
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Unread 01-07-2014, 08:02 PM   #60
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The drifts gotta little too deep in places. 😋 it was fun though.
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