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Unread 12-30-2013, 11:52 PM   #31
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Just have a few cans of silicone spray. Use it liberally.
I was watching TopGear when they made the plow out of a combine and they said diesel fuel works.

My CJ had factory posi front and rear, it does great in the snow. Much better than my truck. With the short wheelbase I would not want to drive it fast though.

We just took it out on a road with ~6" of snow and it did most of it in 2WD. Had to go to 4 going uphill, the snow packed to ice when you spin too much.

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Unread 12-31-2013, 07:55 AM   #32
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I always found my previous Cj7 to be twitchy in snow, it wanted to swap ends too easily because of the short wheelbase.

Of course I was used to my F250 utility body full of tools, a 2 yard sander in the bed, and a Fisher plow. The truck weighed in over 10k pounds with sand in the sander. Not a fair comparison
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Unread 12-31-2013, 08:34 AM   #33
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I found, MOST of the people that have problems with snow and other weather related driving experiences, DON'T know how to drive in it.. I'm sure this will piss some off, but think about it.. you go out and screw with incremental weather, and you'll get tossed in the ditch or over the cliff.. you have to respect what your driving, where your going, how your getting there and what your driving through.. Snow is not tough to drive in, thin, thick, deep, dry, wet or not... I see people all over the country that live in snow belts, each year driving like total idiots.. "OH, I have 4WD, that will keep me on the road".. BS.. YOU and your driving habits will either keep you safe on the road, or KILL you.. Learn to drive, or stay home basically.. ICE, that's another story, there is no learning to drive in black ice, its DON'T.. and if you have to, its "extreme caution, slow, NO curves".. I used to drive from Denver to SF every month, I70 is one huge set of curves.. and bridges are the worst.. can't for the life of me understand building a bridge curved in snow/ice country.. BRIDGES freeze first. if you make one false move, jerk a little, turn a little fast, you'll do loopy do's down that road.. and bounce off any and everything.. NO FUN.. slow and cautious.. ICE DEMANDS 100% RESPECT and ATTENTION...
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Unread 12-31-2013, 09:33 AM   #34
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I have cooper studded snow tires on my cummins. On roads I drive in 2wd. With cement blocks for added weight. Only use 4wd when you have too.

I've learned driving in deep snow by yourself If you get stuck in it in 4wd you don't have 6wd or 8wd to get you out.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 09:41 AM   #35
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Yes, definitely. Well Said. I saw some guy last year try to turn into a driveway off of a 50 mph road. His car didn't turn as sharp as he thought it could in snow, and he plowed into a snowbank. Snow flew everywhere! I must say though, since he was okay, it was pretty crazy to watch. I live right off of an awful road with a 50 mph speed limit and hills and sharp turns...They need to do something about it. A few years ago, on this particular turn, a girl went off the road and into the deep ditch and wasn't found for days, as she was trapped in her car...There was a fatal crash there a few weeks ago when someone crossed the line...Then not 1/8th of a mile away, same road, a few days later, there was another fatal crash due to crossing the line. People often try to pass me on that road, too, and I've seen some near misses with head-on collisions because there simply isn't a straight enough, flat enough section of road to pass on safely. They shouldn't have put a dotted yellow line there. It should be solid. I should clarify though that one of the fatalities was due to sleeping at the wheel, and the other was drunk driving I think. We had to detour twice in a week, but our house was so close to the accidents that both times we came down the road from the other end after the detour and still had to ignore the detour signs to get home...Then in the same week, on a road off of the dangerous one, there was another fatal accident involving unlicensed teenagers and speeds over 100 mph...Sad, really. Some accidents couldn't be helped, but some could have been avoided by having slower speeds through corners that are on hills, and maybe adding more guardrails...

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Unread 12-31-2013, 09:57 AM   #36
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We had snow here the other day. I had to laugh as a guy tried to beat the yellow light on a turn lane. He flew thru the intersection, wheels turned all the way to the lock, and went strait into the metal light pole.

What is funny, is watching just about every video on Youtube with people crashing in the snow. The one thing that stands out in all of them is people with the brakes locked up. Just let it roll, and throttle has saved me more times than brakes.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 10:46 AM   #37
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We had snow here the other day. I had to laugh as a guy tried to beat the yellow light on a turn lane. He flew thru the intersection, wheels turned all the way to the lock, and went strait into the metal light pole.

What is funny, is watching just about every video on Youtube with people crashing in the snow. The one thing that stands out in all of them is people with the brakes locked up. Just let it roll, and throttle has saved me more times than brakes.
AMEN.. gets back to the "don't know how to drive in weather conditions". I remember standing out front of my home in the San Juan Islands, watching for my sister to arrive for Christmas.. Cattle Point Rd at that point is nice and straight, and at that time of the year, its nice and solid ice.. well, she's from Las Vegas.. HOT Nevada.. here she comes, she sees the driveway, waves with a look of bewilderment on her face, as she slides on past the house and finally stops about 500' down the road.. kind of like "what the heck" look.. ha ha..
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Unread 12-31-2013, 11:45 AM   #38
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Heh, I used to live on Orcas... Know exactly what your talking about.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 12:06 PM   #39
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Around here it seems everyone has bought an SUV for their wife. The problem is when they think they are invincible as noted above. They don't realize that stopping isn't improved, so now they can get up to speed more easily, and can't slow down, stop or turn. Their having 4wd has actually made their problems worse.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 12:55 PM   #40
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The first thing to remember is everything is relative. Given wet snow, dry snow, crusty snow, packed snow, as well as ice as varying mediums depending on locale, Terrain, as well as rigs set up as general purpose wheelers, mud runners, sand runners, rock crawlers, or even mall crawlers, you are going to get varying responses to a Jeeps ability to go well in the snow.
In my world, my CJ is an average snow wheeler at best. I used to own a 71 Wagoneer and it went much better in the snow than the CJ. Heck, I've wheeled with my daughter and her bone stock 91 Bronco with Wranglers and it does as well or better depending on terrain.
A lot of the issue for me is weight. My Cj is light and is set up for general purpose wheeling. This means a mix of traction diffs, low gears, and aggressive mud style tires. Since I don't run chains or studs, I find the front bouncing a lot on packed uphills. It doesn't cut through the snow well, so it is unable to get to the hardpan underneath, and the mud tires simply don't have the biting edges needed to get into the snow as it packs under the tires.
Now don't misunderstand me, I can get where I want to go, but I have found that heaver, well balanced vehicles with more appropriate tires can keep up with me in the snow.
Is the CJ the best rig in the snow??? In my humble opinion, given the medium and terrain I wheel in, a comparably equipped Bronco, Scout, (FS) Blazer, or Land Cruiser will have a better go at it.....





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Unread 12-31-2013, 01:59 PM   #41
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I drive mine all winter long. I leave the front hubs engaged from the first snow, to the last. This way, I can "shift on the fly" while moving, as needed.
In fact, this was also the main reason for installing a twin-stick. It makes it really easy to switch from 2wd, to 4wd, quickly while moving.

and I keep my tow strap handy all winter as well. Originally in case I got stuck... but in the last few years, I've pulled out probobly 20 or so stuck cars.
My greatest "achievement" was winter storm "NEMO" last year. We had 3-4 feet of snow, and the state declared "no cars on road, except emergency".

But I had to work at 4am. Before the plows were even out. THe snow was so deep in places that it was coming over the hood as I plowed through it. But as long as I kept the momentum, it carved a "jeep size tunnel" through, and kept going. The fan belt howled like a monkey, as tons of snow probobly filled the engine compartment.


My only issue is the defrosters are terrible. The wipers are terrible. The visibility becomes terrible as the "clear spot" on the windshield gets smaller and smaller as a drive during the snow.
Well I live in Memphis, where we get an inch or two every few years. But we get a few inches of rain in a few hours on a fairly regular basis, year-round, so I know a little about foggy windshields.

There are two pretty straightforward fixes that will do wonders. Three, actually; the first is to make sure your duct is intact. When I bought my '83 I discovered that the duct was rotting out and most of the air was escaping behind the dash.

The first actual mod is to replace your blower motor. There are a few threads on that around here, but if you don't want to go scrounging just go to any parts store such as AutoZone and get a replacement - all the new ones are the larger more powerful model. That will make a huge difference in the size of the fog-free hole.

Second, get a set of YJ wiper arms, and cut the ends off. Cut the ends off of your CJ arms (or a spare set) and weld the YJ ones on. You will then have adequate wipers.

And there's always Rain-X.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 07:32 PM   #42
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I bought mine mainly because of snow. NE Ohio can be so unpredictable anymore in the wintertime that one day you have winter warnings for 4-8" of snow but then the next day it is pouring rain. This means I want to be ready for anything. I also got tired of replacing vehicles after a few years from them rusting out beyond repairing safely. This is why I got the CJ and not another F150 4x4 - I wanted fiberglass body parts that wouldn't rust! I can replace/repair anything mechanically on it, but I am not a body-guy. I figure slowly change it to fully fiberglass, have it painted once, and it'll last for years. As for snow and ice? Best set of tires I've bought yet are the BFG A/Ts, they are snow rated and have gotten me through many environments.

I am interested in the locker setup that Strvger01 mentioned. I'd hate to spend the $$ for it then wipe out the first snow, but I would love to put a locker in. Front locker is out, as I leave the hubs locked in whenever there is a threat of snow on the ground.

i'm a detroit locker fan. lockup is smooth and quiet. simple, dependable, and predictable.
but that's just me.
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Unread 12-31-2013, 11:08 PM   #43
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the blower motor is terrific, I did that to mine.. WORKS GREAT!!! also, you can add another vent in the middle of the top of the dash.. that way you have three defrost ducts.. just get another duct and cut it to fit, super glue it together carefully, sand, spray flat black, and it looks great... also, if your really in the ice and snow, you can add the defrost electric strip around your windshield.. like what goes on the back window.. then put in a switch to turn it on.. that also works great.. if you keep that snow off, you wipers don't crud up.. I like the idea about the yj wipers.. going to look into that one.. for the snow goer above, I ran 31" armstrong tru-tracs on 10" wide wheels, with trucker chains that we made up in the shop.. they had cleats on the cross chains.. there was nothing that ever stopped us with those.. I was one of one that was permitted to leave Truckee after an avalance and super snow storm had covered the hiway toward Sacramento.. the guy asked me to call and report when I got to the other side.. pissed a lot of 4wheelers off, but I had all four chained and was rigged for serious snow.. and I was driving my '78 CJ-5 401" with that compound low first geared 4speed.. warn 8000 on the front, so weight I guess was right.. I plowed right through, couldn't see a road most of the trip, just tops of light posts, tops of trees, and finally town.. what a beautiful trip.. would loved to take pictures but was totally afraid to stop.. figured I sink 15' down..
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Unread 01-01-2014, 07:05 AM   #44
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the blower motor is terrific, I did that to mine.. WORKS GREAT!!! also, you can add another vent in the middle of the top of the dash.. that way you have three defrost ducts.. just get another duct and cut it to fit, super glue it together carefully, sand, spray flat black, and it looks great... also, if your really in the ice and snow, you can add the defrost electric strip around your windshield.. like what goes on the back window.. then put in a switch to turn it on.. that also works great.. if you keep that snow off, you wipers don't crud up.. I like the idea about the yj wipers.. going to look into that one.. for the snow goer above, I ran 31" armstrong tru-tracs on 10" wide wheels, with trucker chains that we made up in the shop.. they had cleats on the cross chains.. there was nothing that ever stopped us with those.. I was one of one that was permitted to leave Truckee after an avalance and super snow storm had covered the hiway toward Sacramento.. the guy asked me to call and report when I got to the other side.. pissed a lot of 4wheelers off, but I had all four chained and was rigged for serious snow.. and I was driving my '78 CJ-5 401" with that compound low first geared 4speed.. warn 8000 on the front, so weight I guess was right.. I plowed right through, couldn't see a road most of the trip, just tops of light posts, tops of trees, and finally town.. what a beautiful trip.. would loved to take pictures but was totally afraid to stop.. figured I sink 15' down..
What a great story!...I got goosebumps just reading it. Bummer,pictures would have been great.

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Unread 01-03-2014, 09:18 AM   #45
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Never did serious snow playing in a jeep, but I have plowed with a 1942 CJ2A, 1946 CJ2A(?), 1965 CJ5 and a 1983 CJ7 and they would all push some serious snow. Never got stuck in any but the CJ7, and managed to push it out using the angle on the plow after shoveling some wheel tracks out. I live in NH and have plowed honest to goodness 3 foot snowstorms. I think my Jeeps all pushed more snow, better, than the current rig. My girlfriend has a 2000 3/4 ton Chevy long bed with the 6.0 liter. Thing would get stuck on a good sized dog turd. Tires make a ton of difference, as does actual ground difference. As an old timer, I tend to like tall, kind of narrow tires so they bite through the snow instead of floating on top
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