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Unread 01-10-2013, 08:14 PM   #31
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I really need to figure out what the gearing is too.

And get the freakin carb off this thing....

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Unread 01-10-2013, 08:25 PM   #32
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You can measure wheel to wheel, but I don't know what the measurement is. A search should give you the info you need.

Gearing can be determined by lifting the rear end and spinning the wheel, counting the number of rotations of the driveshaft. A little more searching should help you there, too. There's some conversion, but don't know the math on that either
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Unread 01-10-2013, 09:57 PM   #33
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I think you'll be fine with the 33" tires. They are probably closer to 32.5 anyway. Most tires except interco (super swappers) are. The Manufacturers website should contain all the info.
As for the steering, and gearing. With the miles you stated who knows when the Differential fluids were changed, so think about that. While your changing fluid you can count the teeth on the pinion and ring gear for ratio and make sure the front and rear match.
Steering wise. Gojeepin has useful info in his Signature on steering issues . All the steering components need to be checked , as well as caster.
The Boggers you currently have are Notorious for being hard to balance , so that could be part of the problem.

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Unread 01-10-2013, 10:13 PM   #34
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Here's some axle info.



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The axle width is the WMS, (wheel mating surface) this is where the rim touches the axle. The dimentions in this screen shot are not 100% accurate but close enough to tell the difference.

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Unread 01-11-2013, 08:00 AM   #35
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Welcome to the forum... just found this thread. Sorry for your recent losses. Everyone has given you some good advice on your Jeep woes... especially about gettting rid of those boggers.

BTW, my family is originally from Meigs... know where thats at?
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Unread 01-11-2013, 10:55 AM   #36
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BTW, my family is originally from Meigs... know where thats at?
Yep, I know exactly where that's at!



I ordered a set of 15x8's with 33x12.50's. Boggers will be off and up for sell (on the wheels) as soon as the new ones come in. I am hoping there is a pretty big difference in drivability etc.

I might try tackling dropping the fuel tank and replacing the fuel sender assembly this weekend.

I'll keep this updated as I do things....
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Unread 01-11-2013, 02:31 PM   #37
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I see that you pulled the trigger on wheels and tires. I sold 15 x 8 with 33 x 12.5 wheels and replaced them with 15 x 10 and 32 x 11.5 One of the issues that I think you run into when running that wide a tire on a narrow rim is the balloon effect with the tires looking out of proportion with wheels.

Enjoy the ride - that will turn out to be pretty cool once it gets the TLC you are giving it.
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Unread 01-11-2013, 02:40 PM   #38
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You may want to check steering components when you swap tires. I had a set on my cj for a short time; they made quick work of finding any weak or failing components

Good luck, should be great when done.
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Unread 01-16-2013, 10:22 PM   #39
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Well guys, I stayed up late and swapped out the PO's 35" boggers for my new 33's...took it for a ride and overall I am more than pleased. There's still issues, read about them below, but the jeep doesn't shake itself half to death, it drives better, but nor perfect, and there is no roar....and it stops better and 5th gear is now usable again.

Issues:
Broke a rear wheel stud off. Need to replace it.
Noticed the steering box, and/or pump, are leaking.
Jeep is still a bit of a handful to drive. I'm sawing on the steering wheel pretty good....that being said, it is a HUGE improvement over the boggers.

Here's some pics ....I'm tired...I'll check back later.

Thanks for the help guys. Already making the CJ better.
20130116_224813.jpg   20130116_231439.jpg   20130116_224824.jpg  
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Unread 01-17-2013, 05:29 AM   #40
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My advice is to have your alignment professionally checked. My shop will give me a readout for free. If they make adjustments, they charge me.

I will almost guarantee your caster is off, and is causing the squirrelly handling.

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Unread 01-17-2013, 06:23 AM   #41
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My advice is to have your alignment professionally checked. My shop will give me a readout for free. If they make adjustments, they charge me.

I will almost guarantee your caster is off, and is causing the squirrelly handling.

Matt
I agree. Luckily we have a shop here with a damn good alignment guy...But I doubt they have spring shims to get the caster set correctly...So I'll have to see how much they are off and then order a set I suppose.

I thought the wheels and tires turned out good though..
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Unread 01-17-2013, 06:41 AM   #42
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I agree, I like your wheel and tire choice. A huge improvement over those boggers.

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Unread 01-17-2013, 08:16 AM   #43
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I have to admit I'm pleasantly surprised that your sidewalls don't look ballooned out. I have 33X12.5's tires on a 15X10 wheel and the sidewalls are fairly rounded. They don't give me any driving issues (other than they generate a lot of noise) but was definitely going to go narrower on my next set.

Once I get my rig back together I'll be in the market for a new set of tires and wheels so I gotta ask...what make are yours?

BTW, love the Renegade stripe package...it makes for a great looking CJ!

Thanks, Al
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Unread 01-17-2013, 08:30 AM   #44
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I have to admit I'm pleasantly surprised that your sidewalls don't look ballooned out. I have 33X12.5's tires on a 15X10 wheel and the sidewalls are fairly rounded. They don't give me any driving issues (other than they generate a lot of noise) but was definitely going to go narrower on my next set.

Once I get my rig back together I'll be in the market for a new set of tires and wheels so I gotta ask...what make are yours?

BTW, love the Renegade stripe package...it makes for a great looking CJ!

Thanks, Al
Thanks, I really like the renegade stripes too! the tacky yellow and orange with the green just make for all kinds of awesomeness. I swear this jeep gets thumbs up and questions everywhere I go...to the point that my little girl said yesterday, "dad, people sure do like MY Jeep!!"

So the tires are 33x12.50x15 Pro Comp Xtreme Mud Terrains on a 15x8 wheel. If I had one gripe it would be that the wheel lip does not have a lot of protection...which is funny, when I ordered them I would have bet money that with a 12.50 tire on a 8" wheel it would have had plenty. Not a deal killer...just me being nit picky.
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Unread 01-18-2013, 09:29 AM   #45
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Well...took it to the alignment shop. They called me back, and my steering box is "flexing". I had planned on buying the steering brace and bracket anyway, just looks like I am going to do it sooner. And, the steering box is leaking, which I knew...so I ordered a H1 box, and I'm tossing the idea around of going with a PSC pump...or, just getting an OEM replacement pump. I guess I'll replace the hoses too.

I'm pretty sure I'll go ahead and replace the steering linkages too with some heavier duty pieces....

damn.

Already planned on doing the blazer heater blower and new heater core tomorrow....

did I say damn already?

At least I know the steering will be jam up.
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