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Unread 01-10-2010, 01:20 AM   #1
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I have always wondered;

If I got a really good deal ..? It's a 1978 CJ5, and when I bought it, was basically stock. Stock axles, stock gears, stock body, etc.
The good:
It has 24,000 original miles, a new paint job (kind of half-***, but okay), "new" front seats, "new" tires and rims, diamond plating, new f/r leafs, a new radiator, rock sliders, f/r metal bumpers, a new carb, one-piece AMC 20 axle conversion, new shackles, and I paid $2,500 for it. (and frame is straight)
The bad:
No back seat, it's a 304 V8 (which I don't mind much), a 3-speed (hate it!), missing a bolt here and a bolt there, ALL bushings were shot, no stereo system (at all), no spare tire, body has some rust, and the gas gauge doesn't work.

So, as I've been taking things apart, I've:
Replaced all the body and suspension bushings, dropped the gas tank and fixed the gauge (also replaced all hoses), put in a new back seat, drained all fluids, and a bunch of little things.

Now, what I'm working on! (continuous project it seems)
When I first brought it home, I decided to be a dumb-*** and accidentally drive with the E-brake on ..but I knew that wasn't right. So, I pulled the ol' AMC 20 apart, and found that the seals were leaking. Thus, I went through EVERYTHING. Replaced all bearings/seals, breaks (w/ break parts), cleaned everything spotless, bought new Crown axles, replaced fluids, and flushed out the housing. Also, had to buy new shock boots, because the others were bent, because ..comes to find out, when the previous owner had it, the passenger side two-piece axle separated, thus dropping the passenger side of the Jeep on the ground. SO! Eventually got everything back up together, and purchased a used T18a transmission for $1,200 (including shipping), and is still sitting in the garage. I'll keep the old Dana 20 xfercase.

A few weeks later, I saw a Craigslist add for a Dana 30 front axle, and an AMC 20 rear axle (same set-up I already have), with 4:88's, and they're wide-trak! For $550, for both! So, I jumped on that deal, after doing the calculations of figuring that it would be almost 2x that cost to buy gears and have them installed in what I have. The axles are also set-up for SOA, so I though that was an advantage too! I would get a nice lift, and not have to spend a horrible amount of money on it. So, I ripped the old out, and slapped the new in, after popping the top off of each and inspecting, everything looked great. The front axle has a Detroit locker, but the rear is open. I cleaned them up, had to buy new U-bolts, extend both drive shafts, buy new lugs, shocks, pit-man arm, and brake lines. Everything went smoothly, until I came across my drag link. It was hitting my spring when I turned the wheel to the right too far ..so now I'm in the process of saving up for a Z-link drag link set up. (then both axles will be completely done!) I ended up selling the old pair of axles, and a five set of 33" tires for the cost of the axles plus a little. So really, I only paid for the price of the work done on my old AMC.

While I'm waiting for my Z-link, I went ahead and dropped my old tranny. And, guess what I saw! NEW CLUTCH! Everything went smoothly with the drop, and I now have two transmissions sitting in the garage.

I'm pretty sure that's all that's happened so far ..and I got a whole bunch of goodies for Christmas! So, that'll all be going in soon too.

Through all of this! You tell me if I got a good deal

P.S. sorry this was so long!


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Unread 01-10-2010, 06:55 AM   #2
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........pics will get you better answers my good sir
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Unread 01-10-2010, 07:32 AM   #3
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What exactly is your question?
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Unread 01-10-2010, 12:07 PM   #4
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How much $$ did you pay for the Jeep?
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Unread 01-10-2010, 01:59 PM   #5
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Yeah the title implies a question but the op is a statement.

$1200 seems absolutely insane for a t18! You do realize that 2-4 on the t 18 are basically the same as 1-3 on the t150. All you gain is a super low first gear and a beefier transmission. To me it seems like if you hated the t150 this isn't gonna be any better.

Seems like you got a good deal on the axles tho.

What are you going to be doing with this cj?
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Unread 01-10-2010, 05:29 PM   #6
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What exactly is your question?
I'm wondering if I got a good deal on my Jeep.
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Unread 01-10-2010, 05:31 PM   #7
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How much $$ did you pay for the Jeep?
$2,500. It was listed as $2,300, but I had him put a new radiator in before I bought it, this bringing the price up. I didn't really care though, my original budget was $2,500.
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Unread 01-10-2010, 05:40 PM   #8
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Yeah the title implies a question but the op is a statement.

$1200 seems absolutely insane for a t18! You do realize that 2-4 on the t 18 are basically the same as 1-3 on the t150. All you gain is a super low first gear and a beefier transmission. To me it seems like if you hated the t150 this isn't gonna be any better.

Seems like you got a good deal on the axles tho.

What are you going to be doing with this cj?
I'm sorry this isn't a technical issue/question, but I was wondering, and didn't know where to post this.

Yes, I did pay $1,200 for the transmission, but that was TOTAL. The transmission itself was actually $500, and I also bought the new bell housing from him; which was $250. The rest was shipping. And yes, I know about the gears. I'm only going to be rock crawling with my Jeep, and I wanted the 6.32:1 granny low.

My future mods:
Auburn ECTED f/r lockers
Dana 44 rear
I-6 swap
New tires/rims
JK quick discos
New front bumper
F/r diff. covers
New winch w/ winch plate
6-point roll bar (already bought)
Flowmaster 40 series
Cobra CB (already bought)
Hella 550's (alredy bought)
Alpine speakers (already bought)
Kenwood radio (already bought)
New steering wheel (already bought)
Sand blast tub, and repaint
And eventually, new front seats
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Unread 01-10-2010, 05:50 PM   #9
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Unread 01-10-2010, 06:04 PM   #10
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Looks/sounds like a nice CJ for $2500.. I'd say you came out on top.
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Unread 01-10-2010, 06:40 PM   #11
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That's a nice looking '5!
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Unread 01-10-2010, 07:06 PM   #12
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Looks/sounds like a nice CJ for $2500.. I'd say you came out on top.
Thanks!

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Unread 01-10-2010, 07:18 PM   #13
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Seems like a good deal to me. I paid $3,000 for mine, got half a engine (4-pot), a sparkly black paint job, and probably 5 tubs of bondo and aluminum sheet metal pre-installed.
That engine bay looks clean, and original. That's kinda scary, right there.
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Unread 01-10-2010, 07:31 PM   #14
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Why would you want to swap a I6 in place of the 304? thats the reverse of everyone else?

That is a nice jeep.
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Unread 01-10-2010, 07:46 PM   #15
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Why would you want to swap a I6 in place of the 304? thats the reverse of everyone else?

That is a nice jeep.
More low end torque, and uses less gas.
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