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Unread 07-07-2009, 02:58 PM   #181
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Hammer, thanks again for the great thread. I am collecting the parts for my 79 CJ7 and starting the upgrade on Monday. One quick question that someone asked on the previous page....I am going to AutoZone because I am in California, and you show that we should purchase an F953 rotor. But part F2104G is a cap and rotor combined. Is the rotor that comes with that cap acceptable to use or should we still purchase the F953?

Thanks again,

Mike
Good question, I was going to ask the same thing! It looks like the roter in F2104G is the F953 rotor??

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Unread 07-08-2009, 10:17 AM   #182
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I guess Hammer is busy. Xbarksdale, are you doing the TeamRush upgrade soon? I'm going to purchase parts today, so if I don't hear back from Hammer, I'm just going to spend the extra few bucks and put in the rotor that he recommended to buy.
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Unread 07-08-2009, 10:21 PM   #183
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I just got inside from doing this and I used the one that came with the cap (F2104G). It is the correct size and has brass contacts so I see no reason to avoid using it. Maybe someone with more experience can chime in.

On a side note I will say that it is entirely worth it. I was running one of those ebay HEI clones. After reading all the horror stories about them chewing the cam gear I decided that was the final straw. I was already unhappy due to the advance curve being so far off you would get pinging from off idle to red line. Anyways, I though the HEI gave amazing performance compared to stock and I was wrong. I teamed this with an old MSD box I had laying around and the Jeep now runs circles around what it would do an hour ago. The best thing is I can't hear a single ounce of pinging anymore.

Also, if anyone is considering doing this and getting rid of their HEI, do it now. I thought I might have been lucky because I hadn't lost the cam gear yet. I could not have taken this thing out soon enough. The gear is seriously chewed up. I'm not sure how much longer it would have lasted.
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...that's why you push in that little nipple (hehe.. I said nipple on the internet :D )
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Unread 07-08-2009, 10:51 PM   #184
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That's great to hear. I just got back from part hunting and I was able to find it all except for the wires. Autozone didn't have them, so I went to Kragen's and was told that those Autolite wires are discontinued and that I would have a tough time finding any. The guy recommended their premium Borg wires for about $26. Now I have to decide between those and the MSD ones discussed earlier. Thanks for the post....Now I can't wait to get started.
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Unread 07-10-2009, 12:38 PM   #185
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I have completed buying my parts for the complete ignition install to include the TeamRush Upgrade.
Below is a price list as of 7/10/2009:
1.) MSD-8862 - 6' wiring harness to connect to CDI module________ $23.95
2.) MSD-8869 - Dura-Spark to MSD adapter______________________ $14.95
3.) Sum- 850602 - CDI module_________________________________ $139.95
Advance
4.) 304691 - Distributor 78 I6 258_______________________________$ 53.49

TeamRush Parts from Advance
5.) C193 - CAP ______________________________________________$ 35.99
6.) C193AP - CAP Spacer______________________________________$ 5.99
7.) 96171 - Autolite Wires______________________________________$29.99
8.) D219 - Rotor_____________________________________________ _$5.49
9.) AP65 - Platinum Plugs_______________________________________$11.94
10.) Dieletric Grease___________________________________________$ 1.00
11.) Anti-Seize_____________________________________________ __$1.00

Still need to pick up Diode. I hope I have got all I need. I might try to do the swap this weekend if I have got time.
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Unread 07-10-2009, 12:52 PM   #186
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cmcstotts, buy summit part number sum-850520 and you will not need to buy the diode. Also this harness will allow you to plug directly into the power supply for the old ignition module and splice in the power to the CDI. This way you can just unplug the CDI and plug back into the ignition module if you ever need to.
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Unread 07-10-2009, 03:35 PM   #187
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I guess Hammer is busy.
You have NO IDEA!

4 Jeeps (2 are mine) broken down in the drive way,
Girlfriend's car has rusted brake lines, so it's down,
And it's 96+ degrees here in the shade with a 'Heat Index' of 106 today and most of this week!

Glad you guys got it figured out!
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Unread 07-10-2009, 05:12 PM   #188
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I have the Prestolite ignition module. It has a more square plug. That is why I didn't buy the sum-850520 adapter. Will this adapter still allow me to swap over my ignition from the CDI to the old Prestolite if I need To?
Jeephammer I am going to do the swap this weekend. Stay inside in the air and keep an eye out for my post crying for help. Good thing it is just my toy, I only drive it on weekends. So if I do get in a jam with it I want have to stress to get it running, so I will have plenty of time.

Thanks for all the Posts everyone it really helps and gives me confidence I can do this.
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Unread 07-11-2009, 04:18 PM   #189
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Well, I finally got all the parts to do mine! Hopefully it will be finished tomorrow!

Hammer, I'd love to know where you are in IN, I'm in Louisville, KY--can't be too far!

Has anyone used the Autolite XP plugs for this? These were the best plugs that I could get at my Autozone and I hope that they're going to be good enough...they were about $6/plug???
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Unread 07-12-2009, 05:39 PM   #190
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I just completed my Upgrade. It feels like a new jeep. I don't know if it has more power but it sure feels like it. I put my summit CDI module just under the blower motor on the passenger side. It is out of the way and dry. My dad help me mark the timing and put the new Distributor in. We had to play with the oil pump a little but the new distributor fit fine. Made all the connections per Jeephammer. We did not put the diode in initially. Hit the ignition the old jeep fired up no problem. Adjusted the timing and wow what a difference. The jeep used to have a little skip but not any longer. Went to turn it off guess I needed the diode after all. Quick fix per JeepHammers instructions. Glad to be done with the old prestolite. My dad wanted me to take it for a spin to get it hot to make sure everything was working. It used to struggle climbing some of the hills now it dosen't seem to struggle at all.
I would strongly recommend the complete ignition swap to replace the old prestolite. Just follow Jeephammers instructions.
Thanks JeepHammer.
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Unread 07-13-2009, 07:47 AM   #191
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I have the Prestolite ignition module. It has a more square plug. That is why I didn't buy the sum-850520 adapter. Will this adapter still allow me to swap over my ignition from the CDI to the old Prestolite if I need To?
You are right. I did not realize you were running the older module.
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Unread 07-13-2009, 05:03 PM   #192
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Thanks for the input.
If you buy the Summit CDI module it comes with a diode if anyone is planning the complete swap. The only thing you have to do with the module is set the dip switch to 6cyl in you are running a 6cyl.
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Unread 07-18-2009, 06:55 PM   #193
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OK Guys, just hit a snag. I bought the adapter and cap/rotor. The problem is, the adapter does not fit. My Distrubutor is the one form the MOPAR Kit, so I guess it is off a 94 4.0 Is there an adapter for this distributor? anyone know the Advance part#??
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Unread 07-19-2009, 03:37 PM   #194
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I went to Autozone today and picked up the following:

Cap Adapter, $4.99, p/n F960 for the 1982 F-150
Distributor Cap and rotor, $20.99, p/n F2104G for the 1982 F-150
Bosch 8mm Plugs from 1982 Ford F-150
Part #252 coil plug wire
Set of Autolite Platinum plugs made for my 1988 YJ 4.2L.

I've got everything installed correctly, but the engine won't start. I'm a little confused because of the posts on the TFI upgrade that said to go with 8mm wires and a new coil. But then I found this one that said to use the stock coil.

So where did I go wrong? If I need a e-core coil, how do I find one? Everything on the 1982 shows the canister style. Would that work instead?

Please help.

Thanks....
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Unread 07-20-2009, 01:11 PM   #195
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N/M.

It was the coil wires. They weren't making a great contact.
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