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Unread 03-02-2013, 09:11 PM   #1
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How much winch do I need?

I need a winch for my 78 CJ7 it has 44 inch super swampers and in the mud a lot. I hunt in South Florida and we are wet 1/2 the year. I will not submerge it too many times but it will get plenty wet.

So what weight winch? and any suggestions on a winch? I know warns are the best but ???? are they worth it??

Here is my jeep: How do you guys think it weighs?





Do yall think I can mount the winch directly to the bumper? or should I buy a mount?




thanks for the advice

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Unread 03-02-2013, 09:25 PM   #2
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Bolt a 16k right on top of the bumper and call it a day.
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Unread 03-02-2013, 09:34 PM   #3
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16K wow I thought I could get by with less. I guess the mud makes the higher cap a necessity??
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Unread 03-02-2013, 09:42 PM   #4
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A 16k winch with a snatch block will pull 32k. That is big but the mud may play a part. The warn xd series has a good reputation and has fast no-load line speed. The new Zeons look good and have good specs but have not been out long. I run a xd9000i and it is plenty for me and to help other heavier vehicles. Get a good mount or make one at least 1/4"

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Unread 03-02-2013, 10:06 PM   #5
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i would go with a hydraulic winch
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Unread 03-03-2013, 10:44 AM   #6
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I have the Ramsey 8000 lbs, http://www.ramsey.com/winches/re8000.html

I feel I could pull up stumps with it . Plenty of winch for a CJ.
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Unread 03-03-2013, 10:53 AM   #7
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If youve got 1500 to play with grab a 12,000 or more warn. If your looking a lil less and dont plan on being a warn snob There are many other options in the 500 to 750 range. Either way stay with at least 12,000lb if you get stuck in those tires it will be nasty, however you dont have a gigantic one ton truck either so 16k may be more than you will ever need. You will need to think about recover gear though, snatch block, line extensions, extra straps and shackles. The only place I see that getting stuck is in an open area, so being able to reach a tree is something you'll need. As far as mounting That is a nice flat surface on your bumper, but you also need room for a fairlead. So I would suggest making a nice heavy plate, out of 1/4 or 3/8 steel that can be bolted down to your frame. I dont really like the looks of most name brand winch plates. They look flimsy to me. That and $100 for $5 of steel. Awesome jeep by the way, just go easy on those axles, 44s axles are beefy buy 44 tires are monsters.
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Is there a gravel yard or anything near you? Weigh it, sometimes they charge $5 or something small like that, but then you'd know. And don't forget to figure in cargo weight. Then I hear to take your vehicle's weight and go X3 with it. I'm looking for either an 8274 or a 9k winch or bigger. Would love the 8274 for the style - they just 'fit' the CJ, but otherwise I want to go overkill with the winch. I like the margin of safety.
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I would guess that jeep comes in in a maybe 3 tons.
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With snatch blocks wont a 9k work? Just double or tripple the line, you can buy 6+ Harbor freight winches for those fancy warn ones, red spray paint and a W stencil and you can be cool too.
I would make sure you find a wench that is hella water resistant.

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With snatch blocks wont a 9k work? Just double or tripple the line, you can buy 6+ Harbor freight winches for those fancy warn ones, red spray paint and a W stencil and you can be cool too.
I would make sure you find a wench that is hella water resistant.

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It probaly would work but for the extra money for extra blocks you could just get a 12000, they are usually only 100 more. Still HF winches are good but Ive fornd the 12000 to be a lil big for its britches, the cable is a good bit thicker than the 9k but it has the same size drum. So piling can be an issue. I know I broke mine, then fixed it using fence parts, now I'd say its a 10k plus I shortened the cable 20 ft. Now Im looking at Engos and other brands with slightly better engineering. But I just can afford a warn unless someone gives me a 8274 for a hundred and I spend 200 rebuilding it and another 200 on a line.
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Is there a gravel yard or anything near you? Weigh it, sometimes they charge $5 or something small like that, but then you'd know. And don't forget to figure in cargo weight. Then I hear to take your vehicle's weight and go X3 with it. I'm looking for either an 8274 or a 9k winch or bigger. Would love the 8274 for the style - they just 'fit' the CJ, but otherwise I want to go overkill with the winch. I like the margin of safety.
This is the way to go. Figure out your gross weight first, and with mud figure on tripling it. THAT'S YOUR MINIMUM sized winch needed. Mud does amazing things, but the worst is it creates a vacuum that's hard to break when pulling the Jeep out of the mud. Remember too that a winch is rated at the bottom cable wrap next to the drum. each wrap lessens the power of the winch.

Make sure you have a decent recovery kit with at least a couple of snatch blocks (more is better) and slings. With the right sized winch and a decent recovery kit, you can do anything.
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I have the Ramsey 8000 lbs, http://www.ramsey.com/winches/re8000.html

I feel I could pull up stumps with it . Plenty of winch for a CJ.
Had a Ramsey on my Scout, worked great. It is industrial in make. If you notice the tow trucks and other recovery vehicles that do this for a living, you will see lots of Ramsey products, they have a high duty cycle too.
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Just looked at ramseys site and well as impressed with them as I am 1600 for an 8k winch, really. I could go buy 5 budget winches that would more than likely outlive my jeep. And still have money left for a recovery kit.

And I thought 8274s were expensive.
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Just looked at ramseys site and well as impressed with them as I am 1600 for an 8k winch, really. I could go buy 5 budget winches that would more than likely outlive my jeep. And still have money left for a recovery kit.

And I thought 8274s were expensive.

Quality and safety are not cheap, especially when they are made by an American. I wil always sway torward the American made product simply because my customers do the same with the products I make.

It is just an opinion.
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