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Unread 11-08-2013, 05:50 PM   #31
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Really 2X, roll eyes from the 258, Carburetor, ignition, TH400. What's this noise, expert. WTF! Bill
I don't know, Bill....

It wasn't me that got butthurt and deleted an hours worth of typing.

Seemed kinda selfish to me, for someone to put all that information out there only to delete it all...

Seems to happen every time I post a question.

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Unread 11-08-2013, 06:22 PM   #32
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This is my fault.

I knew Vince (2X) had the basics down. Hammer didn't.

I gave the consolidated version, knowing there are plenty of threads out there that give the thesis version. Hammer gave the thesis version, again, which I viewed as a waste of bandwidth, and I got snarky.

I regret that, and hope Hammer will accept my apologies.

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Unread 11-08-2013, 06:41 PM   #33
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Didn't know the posts were deleted, I don't go back and re-read unless I didn't understand the post, or I posted a incorrect answer to the question, to see if I read it wrong.

Keep the questions coming, for the most part, the OP isn't the only person who learns something.
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Unread 11-09-2013, 05:33 AM   #34
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Vince,

Sorry for the clash of egos on your thread.

Did you have any luck setting your timing?

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Unread 11-09-2013, 08:15 AM   #35
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Sorry for the clash of egos on your thread.
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Me too. Certain posts seem to draw out unnecessary junk from me that I have to go back and delete.

I'm glad the Hammer's back and in better shape.


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Unread 11-09-2013, 01:39 PM   #36
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To be honest, I haven't touched it. I may get an hour or so in at the garage tomorrow.

Stupid question here, but I assume I set the specified 3000 rpm using the idle speed screw on the carb....correct?

As I've said before, this vehicle is the first I've owned that I've had to monkey with carbs or timing.... Not to mention, the nearest Jeepers I know are an hr away.
So, I apologize for asking to many requests for clarification.
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Unread 11-09-2013, 05:28 PM   #37
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2X,

I think you bought the same timing light I use, correct?

If so, what I do is is operate the throttle at the carb with my right hand and shoot the timing with my left. It takes a little practice, and some long arms, but it's doable.

If it doesn't work for you, then I'd use the idle screw. Hopefully you'll have enough adjustment to reach 3000 RPM.

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Unread 11-09-2013, 07:12 PM   #38
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2X, I think you bought the same timing light I use, correct?
I did.

But wouldn't that method would require a third hand to screw with the distributor?

I'm obviously missing something here...
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I did.

But wouldn't that method would require a third hand to screw with the distributor?

I'm obviously missing something here...
Not necessarily. You're simply logging data at this point. You'll go back and tweak chit after you've had a chance look the data over.

Personally, I like the buddy system, assuming you have a warm body to help. Grab a note pad and make a line down the left labeled "rpm". Write 750, 1,000, 1,250, 1,500... etc. up to 3,000 rpm. NO, the centrifugal advance isn't all in at 1,200 like certain people would have you believe. And NO, the main jets don't flow anywhere near 800 rpm. Ok, enough of that. My bad

Have them sit in the cab with the notepad and rev the engine to the desired rpm. Watch the light and holler the number back to them. They write it down and rev to the next line, repeat. If you're a retard like me, PM the numbers to Matt so he can make a graph.

Be sure and plug the vacuum advance when you do this.


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Unread 11-09-2013, 10:35 PM   #40
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Now we're talking about plotting advance curves.....

All I want to do at this point is get the timing set so I can give the thing a decent test drive.
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Vince,

You tend to over-think things.

You should only be concerned about one timing number (30-35* at 3000). So, I work the throttle up to 3000 with my right hand and shoot the timing with my left. If it needs adjustment, I set my timing light down, make the necessary adjustment to the dizzy, then re-shoot the timing. It doesn't take three hands, but it does require a little dexterity.

That's about all I can help, short of doing it for you myself.

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Vince,

You tend to over-think things.

You should only be concerned about one timing number (30-35* at 3000). So, I work the throttle up to 3000 with my right hand and shoot the timing with my left. If it needs adjustment, I set my timing light down, make the necessary adjustment to the dizzy, then re-shoot the timing. It doesn't take three hands, but it does require a little dexterity.

That's about all I can help, short of doing it for you myself.

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OK.

This is what I thought.

I hope to get to the garage today, so we'll see....
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Unread 11-10-2013, 08:27 AM   #43
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Ha!! The personality must be common I the name! Vince, you'll get it. I was at the point that I thought these guys were cracking up after each of their posts while they watched me chase my tail. I couldn't see straight. But I kept repeating it over and over. Before I lot the whole damn thing on fire, one time it just dropped in where it needed to be. All smiles since!! Us guineas from NY are so perfect we expect everything else to be too!! What light did you and Matt use out if curiosity?
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You should only be concerned about one timing number (30-35* at 3000). So, I work the throttle up to 3000 with my right hand and shoot the timing with my left. If it needs adjustment, I set my timing light down, make the necessary adjustment to the dizzy, then re-shoot the timing. It doesn't take three hands, but it does require a little dexterity.
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Unread 11-10-2013, 08:56 AM   #45
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Ha!! The personality must be common I the name! Vince, you'll get it. I was at the point that I thought these guys were cracking up after each of their posts while they watched me chase my tail. I couldn't see straight. But I kept repeating it over and over. Before I lot the whole damn thing on fire, one time it just dropped in where it needed to be. All smiles since!! Us guineas from NY are so perfect we expect everything else to be too!! What light did you and Matt use out if curiosity?
Vinnyabs, this could very well be the case....

Matt's post on one of my previous threads:

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I've used this one for two years, most recently with my MSD ignition on the 360, and it works well.

The advance feature is nice, and it reads dead on with the timing tape. $99 at Autozone.

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