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post #1 of 24 Old 04-21-2013, 02:34 PM Thread Starter
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My horn hasn't worked since I bought the jeep. I noticed the relay was missing today. Went and got one, plugged it in and the horn blows constantly. No wonder the relay was pulled.

I took the horn button off and all looked good. I took the button assembly off and put the relay back in and the horn was still constantly on.

I traced the wires from horn to firewall and all looked good. Any idea what might be going wrong?

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post #2 of 24 Old 04-21-2013, 02:41 PM
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Horn wire is grounding inside the steering column.
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I thought it might be something inside the column. How would I go about getting to the wire inside the column?
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post #4 of 24 Old 04-21-2013, 03:08 PM
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Sometimes just the contact is installed upside down. You just have to pull off the horn button to find out.

Look for my post on replacing the ignition lock. I explain the right way it should be mounted.

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I can't find the post you're referring to. I searched through your posts but didn't see it.

If that was the case, though, would the horn still be on constantly when the button and assembly is off?
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Is there a simple way to check the wiring inside the column?
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I can't find the post you're referring to. I searched through your posts but didn't see it.

If that was the case, though, would the horn still be on constantly when the button and assembly is off?
With the button off but what assembly are you talking about?
Is this a stock steering wheel?

Stock, this plate might be upside down. This will cause it to sound continuously or intermittently.

it's made up of these parts. It varies a little with the jeep stuff



Internally there is this plate:



There can be all kinds of thing wrong here.
it can be broken off, contact missing and spring shorting out. installed wrong...

Here is the spring loaded button:


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Yeah it's stock. I guess it's not actually an assembly. Just the little plastic piece, the screws, the metal plate, and the little piece with the spring.
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I added more after you posted...
There are some internal stuff shown above.

Is this sticking out with a metal button sticking out?



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I haven't pulled the nut off the steering wheel. I just took the button, contact switch, and metal plate off.

I guess I need to go ahead an pull the wheel and give it a look?
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Also, I'm replacing the steering wheel because it leaves a black residue on my hands and te cover on it is too fat.

I've got a grant steering wheel and bought the installation kit.

I'd like to figure this out all at once so it works properly and can get inspected soon.
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I haven't pulled the nut off the steering wheel. I just took the button, contact switch, and metal plate off.

I guess I need to go ahead an pull the wheel and give it a look?
Sounds like you're going to have too...


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If that spring plate is upside down, your horn will definitely sound constantly. Ask me how I know!

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I pulled the wheel and couldn't find anything out of the ordinary. I also went ahead and attached the new wheel just to see if by chance it was something in the old the was messing it up. No luck.





How do I get this part off to check the wiring underneath?

Any other tips on what I can do to troubleshoot?
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