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post #586 of 844 Old 07-03-2013, 10:15 AM
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Here. This may do more damage than good though. Either it's confusing or I've had entirely too much coffee.


For now, I'd just pull the sight plug out and see if fuel comes out or not. We'll go from there.


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Can't connect to YouTube here at work.... they don't trust us to not be avoiding our work. Oh, wait.....

I'll check the vid from home.

IIRC, fuel should be right at the bottom of sight plug.
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That's correct, just at the bottom.

These are cool:


http://www.summitracing.com/parts/mor-65226

There use to be a plastic block that would bolt to your fuel bowl but I can't find them anymore. Not even at Summit Auto.
Maybe JC Whitney might sell them.
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Have you ever removed the curb idle screw completely and pulled the carb and flipped it upside down to see / confirm the primary plates are closed completely?

If not it needs to be done / verified.
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Have you ever removed the curb idle screw completely and pulled the carb and flipped it upside down to see / confirm the primary plates are closed completely?

If not it needs to be done / verified.
I have not.
Would it have to be removed completely?
Wouldn't it backing it all the way out off of the cam do the same thing?

And you are referring to this one, correct?

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I have not.
Would it have to be removed completely?
Wouldn't it backing it all the way out off of the cam do the same thing?

And you are referring to this one, correct?
Referring to that exact one........it in your hand leaves no doubt that its not interfering.

As long as your sure.......
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Ok, this is weird.... to me, anyway.....

Get to the garage with a checklist of things to do, including today's suggestions from you guys.

I did a lot of searching and saw a lot of mentions of sticky centrifugal advances as well as choke issues causing some of my issues.

So I started checking things off my list. Starting with those I could do before starting it.

Checked voltage at choke - nothing. None. Zip.
WTF? Found and eliminated the problem - a faulty Buss 'Add-A-Line' I used to tap into the fuse block.
CHECK

Cleaned up the cent. adv.
CHECK

Checked float levels. Carb is rotated 90* on engine, so.... Pass Side Float = lil' High, Driver's Side Float = lil' Low. Didn't adjust anything bc it's 90* in tha garage....
CHECK

Fire it up, and on a cold start it started and sat at 440 rpm.... Yes, four hundred, forty.

Had to turn it up to 800.

It should run high on cold start, right?
That's how a choke works, right....???

Wheel, Fix, repeatů.
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Which screw did you turn to up the idle?

The screw on the choke side or the screw on the throttle cable side?
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Which screw did you turn to up the idle?

The screw on the choke side or the screw on the throttle cable side?
The one in Figure 9 above

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Wow 440 RPM cold !!!!

Mine won't even idle that lows armed up.

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That Is defiantly the one to bring up the idle when its warm. So lt it warm up and see if the idle stays the same.

We can check cold idle later. Lets make sure this setting remains stable when warm.
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Did you let it warm up to see what it idles at?
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I am going to swing by the garage today and double check RPM's and what it does warmed up, etc.

One thing I did notice though, when I checked to see if fuel was dripping from booster, when I kit the throttle it dumped a helluva lot of fuel into the carb. So much so that it soaked the primary plates. Is that normal?

Hope you all enjoy your holiday and again, thanks for sticking with me!
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I am going to swing by the garage today and double check RPM's and what it does warmed up, etc.

One thing I did notice though, when I checked to see if fuel was dripping from booster, when I kit the throttle it dumped a helluva lot of fuel into the carb. So much so that it soaked the primary plates. Is that normal?

Hope you all enjoy your holiday and again, thanks for sticking with me!
That's normal to squirt like that. However, there is a adjustment for that acc. Pump arm off the carb top. I think its 1/2 inch.
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Went to garage to confirm a few things for you guys.... Damn it's hot in there!
Anyway here's what I found:

Choke plate open
Hit gas and heard it close.
Confirmed it was closed.
Fired it up.
770 rpm and climbed to and leveled out at 1360 over 5 minutes
Kicked it down
1000 rpm
Adjusted it to 800 rpm
3 minutes later it was still pretty much there - fluctuating between 780 and 810. I didn't hear a change in rpm, it was more like just blips on the readout.

It did stumble pretty good when I goosed the throttle though...

Wheel, Fix, repeatů.
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Did you get smaller jets yet? The ones running a 390 Holley that posted their jet sizes were around 48 to 46 for the primary's. then take the jets you pulled out and put them in the secondaries.

So, what changed that you were able to get your low idle. It seems to just have healed itself while you were going to look at things causing the high idle.
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